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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 4:15:00 GMT
The sspx medias are trying to gain support for their agenda. Many sspx superiors have been writing articles in favor of the accord with rome. Menzingen plays the traditional fiddle selling cream puff sentimentalism. Rome gives out pounds of carrots at the end of a stick. +Bishop Fellay loves the carrots. He said the pope calls him a son. There is no problem with rome. Everything is normal. The roman authorities are giving them everything they need for reconciliation. 'They do not ask for anything'. They like us. Ya, put the faith in a box and every progressive will like you. Voice the Archbishop's stand, you become an unliked rebel.
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Post by ajnc on Jul 11, 2018 10:48:03 GMT
The sspx medias are trying to gain support for their agenda. Many sspx superiors have been writing articles in favor of the accord with rome. Menzingen plays the traditional fiddle selling cream puff sentimentalism. Rome gives out pounds of carrots at the end of a stick. +Bishop Fellay loves the carrots. He said the pope calls him a son. There is no problem with rome. Everything is normal. The roman authorities are giving them everything they need for reconciliation. 'They do not ask for anything'. They like us. Ya, put the faith in a box and every progressive will like you. Voice the Archbishop's stand, you become an unliked rebel.
Bishop Fellay has said that Francis is a Modernist. You are right to ask if the anti-modernist oath means anything anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 15:41:08 GMT
Since 2012, Bishop Fellay had signed in the name of the SSPX many subsequent Documents to formulate a deal and "reconciliation" with modernist rome. Wherein it is a public profession of belief he accepts as the new impetus of the SSPX: the modernist 1989 Profession of faith, Code of 1983 Canon law, the legitimacy of the novus ordo mass, to name some of the most flagrant. Regardless of the marketing for a new structural existence with rome, it is a existence with modernism. One cannot join and live separate in the spiritual house of another without representing what they stand for. This is the reason the old-sspx red-lighted the FSSP and all the Ecclesia Dei community - it is pure modernism and modernist implementation to apostate the world with a new religion. The Ecclesia Dei, which the neo-sspx has embraced and housed, was created as an agent of the modernists to crush tradition; they said so! The old-sspx of Archbishop Lefebvre grew to become fully aware of their designs to apostate souls. This is why Archbishop Lefebvre said what he said through experienced providence guiding him, "If one is to stay catholic you cannot join the conciliar church". But the new-sspx is happy just to be affirmed by conciliarists without any doctrine expressed by Bishop Fellay.
These tenants of modernism enshrined in the conciliar church, in fact makes the conciliar church what it is, is the parasite of evil our Lord warned us about for false shepherds dressed as wolves. Yet Bishop Fellay said " it is not a trap". Joining modernist infrastructure aimed to disrupt the Catholic State and Catholic institutions, as the SSPX is calling for and who will formally take their miters [1] placing them at the feet of the pope making to the world a new oath of fidelity based on the above acceptances in front of the modernist churchmen running all these structures, in order to fight modernism the neo-sspx superiors say, is not just an oxymoron, it is the definition of modernism itself -- evolving truth with error. No different than the FSSP. These neo-sspx superiors were ordained in position to protect and administer the faith. Instead, they mix this with their own inordinate zeal for membership and compassion for human acceptance than the sole cross to protect the faith Christ gave as the ONLY means of salvation. Altering it alters one's salvation. There is NO salvation in conciliarism the same as there is NO salvation in protestantism.
It is intrinsically EVIL!
So for the neo-sspx to say the anti-modernist oath in front of the Blessed Sacrament and world is a hypocritical betrayal to our Lord. It shows tradition is more of a habit of bells and whistles for these people than a sincere life of purity and conversion.
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Archbishop Lefebvre made clear in his 1987 letter to the four prospect candidates he was about to consecrate as bishops to put their miters before the pope ONLY when rome comes back to Catholic Tradition. The Quotes of Archbishop Lefebvre are manifest acts of providence. To deny the growth and purification or the Church through these turbulent years is to deny God's hand Himself guiding and purifying His Church.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2018 16:45:34 GMT
It's now 6:30 pm their local time in Econe Switzerland. No superior general announced as they said they would to the pope, all the members in the sspx, and the world being the first act of their meeting. Must be having problems electing a superior general or the one voted on is not present needing to be summoned and fly in.
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Post by antonio on Jul 14, 2018 18:25:49 GMT
Excuse me, I'm new here. I've been wondering lately if anyone has a short list of the various ways the new SSPX has defected away from the Society that ABL founded.
I'm hoping to find like a sound-bite-bullet-list that I can memorize. I've found myself in conversations where I was at a loss to back up the generalizations I have said, so when challenged I have a hard time backing them up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 18:53:47 GMT
Excuse me, I'm new here. I've been wondering lately if anyone has a short list of the various ways the new SSPX has defected away from the Society that ABL founded. I'm hoping to find like a sound-bite-bullet-list that I can memorize. I've found myself in conversations where I was at a loss to back up the generalizations I have said, so when challenged I have a hard time backing them up. Welcome Anonio. Yes there are very good lists done by some very dedicated members on this forum.
The providence of this 60 year crisis and generations prior shows there is a manifest omission for the rights of God and His Supremacy in every breathe we take; whether in all four corners of the world negligent in yesterday's and today's churchmen, the personalities in neo-tradition, or fake tradition, Christ is distinctly missing in His essence and primacy in their dialogue of men.
We baptized Catholics say - No - to their manifest bigotry and betrayal to the cross of Christ! We will not compromise!
The Glory of the Catholic Church is full of our Lord's attributes and treasure of His Father's person. It is men and their vain sin that is the crisis; not God.
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