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Post by Admin on Jul 26, 2018 0:14:47 GMT
It never ceases to amaze how much damage can be done with a few strokes of a keyboard. It appears that imported smut from CI has today made its way to Cor Mariae. (Actually, Cor Mariae seems to have fully embraced the cathinfo-esque style of calumny and malice.)
The pitiful attempt was made to imply that somehow... in some way... the new priest at OLMC, Fr. Joseph Poisson, is a part of a Pennsylvania state grand jury investigation of sex abuse by several priests across the state of Pennsylvania. According to the calumnious posts in both forums, simply because Fr Poisson was sent by his-then FSSP superiors to be stationed in Pennsylvania for what looks like two years (2005-2007) he is, by virtue of the truth fact of his once breathing the Pennsylvania air, also worthy of investigation? Do these people have no shame? According to this line of reasoning, every SSPX priest sent to the state of Pennsylvania must also be under investigation? There is zero proof offered other than he resided in the state at the orders of his superiors.
Not only is poor Fr. Poisson NOT mentioned in any of the links or articles provided, no priest is mentioned by name. But this little fact is of no consequence to those who hate OLMC. A completely irrelevant fact when the charity he was extended was proffered by the priests of OLMC. That he accepted their kindness, well, poor man, that is his crime in the eyes of Cathinfo and Cor Mariae.
What we do know:
Fr. Joseph Poisson was released from the FSSP for being too traditional. He has spent the last five years on his parents farm in Canada. He arrived at OLMC in May of 2018. NOT shortly before the June 24th Pennsylvania investigation was announced as is being so calumniously spread as fact. He did NOT flee Scranton, Pennsylvania this past June, as is maliciously alleged.
This is such a contemptible behavior by supposedly-traditional Catholics, there are really no words.
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Post by Scarlet Pimpernel on Jul 26, 2018 1:14:57 GMT
It’s only natural, birds of a feather flock together.
But it’s such a shame for people to enjoy spreading evil.
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Post by bethcline on Jul 26, 2018 1:47:32 GMT
They treated our Lord the same way.....we're in good company.
Prayer and penance always...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 3:44:09 GMT
When you know who is the one originating the slander, it starts to make sense, it is from the same person -> "Fanny" from cathinfo.
Fanny has multiple names on the internet forums.
On Cathinfo she is "Fanny" and "Smedley Butler".
On thecatacombs she is the guests "jmj" - "MM" - and "nightowl".
On cormariae she is "Mary M".
She proved it by saying so AND selling all the same slimy content under her different names.
Motive? I was told she is the mother of one of the seminarians who wants her son out and is trying with gossip and slander as a way of doing it to put pressure on him. Some Catholic mother she is. Well the pressure is on you "Fanny" from heaven with all your calamity. How will your son like to see you doing this over the internet? Think he would embrace your slander?
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Post by Admin on Jul 26, 2018 10:40:23 GMT
It seems there is at least one who is willing to stand up for the truth regarding Fr. Poisson:
Excerpt from CathinfoWe can only hope Cor Mariae will be willing to do the same as at least Cathinfo has allowed and remove/correct the calumny they are allowing to be spread. A full retraction on both sites is necessary before God for allowing innuendo and implication with so little attempt or a pretense of providing facts in their accusations against not just a lay person but a priest.
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Nightowl/MM/etc./etc./etc.,
You have been banned again here using the second address you posted under. We will continue to do so each and every time you attempt to appear. You were repeatedly warned in the past days to tread carefully. It was even noted to us that we went too far in allowing you to stay as long as we did. This latest despicable action of yours with respect to Fr. Poisson has truly sealed your fate here. We are done.
Good luck and God bless, Admin
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Post by Admin on Jul 26, 2018 12:21:03 GMT
It would appear that in the last hour or so, both on Cor Marie and Cathinfo that some of the more salacious implied wrong-doings by Fr. Poisson have been removed, in varying degrees.
But it is also clear that the person who started the attacks against Fr. Poisson on both sites still cannot contain her rage against the priests of OLMC, the true intended targets of her heinous comments. She has only modified her comments against the Fathers without learning her lesson to offer fact rather than her own spin. So be it. Those actions have their own reward, often times in this life but certainly in the next.
But let's be clear: editing published words - an impossibility before computers - does not qualify as a retraction. A retraction must attempt to undo the damage done. A few keyboard punches to a backspace button does not qualify as a retraction. Those damaging words must be apologized for. Anything less than that is pure cowardice, hiding behind a machine.
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Post by Deus Vult on Jul 26, 2018 12:53:44 GMT
Hellooooo......slander is a sin. St. Philip Neri in his example illustrates it best.
St. Philip Neri
"The Fowl of Slander"
He who robs another of his good name can never repair the terrible injury he has caused.
A woman once came to St. Philip Neri, (1515-1595) confessing that she had a terrible weakness for gossiping. She asked the Saint to advise her how to conquer this fault. First, St. Philip tried to convince the woman of the grievous wrong that she did by spreading slander. But she would not believe that she did much harm by it. St. Philip then told her, "Do this for your penance, my daughter. Go to the market and buy a dead chicken that still has its feathers, and carry it through the streets. As you go along, pluck out the feathers one by one and scatter them on the way. When you have done this, come back to me."
The woman fulfilled her strange penance, and returned to him. Naturally, she was very curious as to what he would say next. The Saint praised her obedience in following his first command. But now he told her to go again through the streets, and gather all the feathers she had plucked out! She was surprised by this command, and answered him, "Father, that is impossible. For the wind will have carried them away in all directions."
And so, St. Philip Neri told her: "Just as the wind disperses feathers in all directions, so it is with calumny. The persons who hear it go their several ways and carry it far and wide, so that it is beyond reach or correction."
This practical illustration taught the woman not the mere wrong, but the immense evil done by one who spreads evil tales about others. She had never thought about it seriously. But now she could see that the bad things she said spread so quickly among so many people that it was impossible to undo the damage. Because there was no way of knowing where to find all those people who, by a short time, would be hearing and spreading the slander. Therefore, there was no way to gather the multitude of badly informed gossipers, to speak to them and repair the reputation of their victim.
The lesson was well learned and, with Heaven’s help, the woman was more cautious in her speech from that time forward.
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Post by Serviam on Jul 28, 2018 3:13:20 GMT
Apparently, the overriding purpose of Cathinfo and those who support that site is to create and perpetuate an intense hatred for Fr. Pfeiffer and OLMC. It is truly sad that someone who is supposedly "Catholic" has no problem spewing innuendos and outright lies about anyone--but especially about those who are priests. In doing this, they are trying to (1) destroy Fr. Pfeiffer and the good work he is doing, (2) discredit Fr. Poisson for doing nothing more than associating with OLMC, and (3) disturb the souls of those who back OLMC and cause us to waiver in or abandon our support. With regards to the third point, it would be good to recall what we have been taught on the Ignatian retreats. Rules For The Discernment of Spirits St. Ignatius of Loyola
Fifth Rule. In time of desolation one should never make a change, but stand firm and constant in the resolutions and decision which guided him the day before the desolation, or to the decision which he observed in the preceding consolation. For just as the good spirit guides and consoles us in consolation, so in desolation the evil spirit guides and counsels. Following the counsels of this latter spirit, one can never find the correct way to a right decision. Sixth Rule. Although in desolation we should not change our earlier resolutions, it will be very advantageous to intensify our activities against the desolation. This can be done by insisting more on prayer, meditation, frequent examinations, and by increasing our penance in some suitable manner. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 14:23:53 GMT
On cormariae looks like the person "michael1" only has a personal ruse against Fr. Pfeiffer than anything else. Looking at his archives he is near silent on any other topic but active with calamity against one catholic priest.
What stands out to me is the olsc head "michael1" said he works as a corporate fundraiser mover and shaker in his job. His biggest complaint in all of his posts is about money, finesse of travel and accommodations. And Fr. Pfeiffer is not. But "michael1" wants all the priests to fit into his mold.
God save us from the king.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2018 15:08:37 GMT
cathinfo can't get disgusting enough to fill their slander pot. They just went after Fr. Possion for the only reason he is not in the false resistant camp. Pontiff matthew took charge to bury any priest who does not pass his throne. Funny how Fr. Voigt was sabotaged and sent to matthew's gallows when father was at OLMC and now resides in praise swallowed under matthew's trad-ecum agenda.
A little advice might be in order for the throne. Get your act together on the NOM and its behemoth devil miracles before you can even go after catholic priests who have the faith.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 29, 2018 22:19:19 GMT
Sounds a lot like the Pharisees with Christ.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 2:24:35 GMT
And to try to justify themselves and relieve their consciences, Matthew and his group at CI ridiculously say that they’re not committing the sin of calumny and that they’re just stating “the facts.”
Here are some examples from some posts about Fr. Poisson on Cathinfo.
“People are merely stating the objective facts and circumstances regarding his transition from FSSP to an association with the Pfeiffer compounds and stating that it is suspicious and requires a tremendous amount of caution. That is not calumny but FACT.”
“…But the facts make him suspect.”
“I couldn't find any instances of maligning Fr. Poisson's character. His judgment maybe (which is public knowledge) and pointing out the history of Boston, KY and Fr. Pfeiffer's connections to various priests of questionable background -- but that is a fact.”
“There are no posts with any implications about Fr. Poisson on the forum. We are just stating facts and putting everything in perspective.”
Calumny is calumny and their refusal to see it in their posts doesn’t make it any less so.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 6:04:15 GMT
In another string of censored and deleted posts, the administrator of Cor Mariae chose to take her vigilant hate of late against a few catholic priests and multiply it by both giving a platform for any other virulent hater to spew unchecked and unverified calamity, and to censor other members so not to challenged it. In other words, the Cor Mariae (Heart of Mary) website is now whitewashed to be a "truth" for hate. What is the veracity of their news, because she said so.
While I am still left on the nebulous quarantine (without any notice or warning) and of late constantly threatened by her with a ban for challenging its new path of unchecked slander, effectively saying I must comply with her new platform of biased hate against persons and priests because she said so, I was at least able to copy in snippet form the many censored and deleted posts I made showing the crass and betrayal of the Administrator deceiving the innocent to call what she does as "an apostolate of the Mother of God website". (sic)
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In Reply to Ecclesia Militans constant barrage of obtuses:
Instead, the CM admin censored it and wrote a strange moderation in its place:
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Following in post to challenge the admin's own obtuses:
Wasn't enough of a whitewash for the new CM platform? The CM admin took it upon herself to edit/monitor my post and do some censoring. See what's added and what's missing:
So now my Reply.
To the Administrator of Cor Mariae. You have taken upon yourself a dangerous road calamitous to the Church I want no part with and will not associate my name with.
I have tried to DELETE my account and cannot find the button in my profile. So please DELETE my member name from your website effective immediately.
Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 15:01:03 GMT
Machabees, you write that I knew Ambrose Moran was baptized Catholic as it was shown to me many times. Therefore, you conclude that I am being calumnious. Did you ever think that whatever evidence you presented at that time did not convince me? Nevertheless, you make such a big deal about Ambrose Moran being Catholic as if that swipes clean his controversial history. Go read my posts on my website and you will see whether or not Ambrose Moran was baptized Catholic is an essential point; it is not. For two and a half years, I have and continue to maintain these two essential propositions to my argument:
1. Ambrose Moran was not ordained a priest by Cardinal Slipyj.
2. Ambrose Moran was not consecrated a bishop by Cardinal Slipyj.
If you can present new evidence that runs contrary to these two propositions, I am willing to take a look at it. Remember that it is Ambrose Moran that publicly stated the contradictions to these two propositions:
1. That he was ordained a priest by Cardinal Slipyj.
2. That he was consecrated a bishop by Cardinal Slipyj.
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Post by tm on Aug 7, 2018 15:36:26 GMT
It may sound silly, but can’t we just ask the Bishop, Priest, man to justify his claim since there’s conflicting paperwork circulating? It would seem, if he’s a man in good standing, he’d be happy to oblige, especially considering the times we live in. ?
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