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Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre Volume 2, Chapter XXIX
An Audience with Pope John Paul
18 November 1978
Before presenting Mgr. Lefebvre's account of his audience with Pope John Paul 11, it would be instructive to refer to the account given by Ronald Singleton in The Universe (London) on 24 November. Ronald Singleton's reporting is dominated by a pathological dislike of the Archbishop and Catholic Tradition. The London Universe is characterized by an almost total ignorance of the nature of Catholicism, and hence of the values which Mgr. Lefebvre upholds. The report began as follows: The truth is that the Archbishop had never waged any form of war against the Vatican. The Society of St. Pius X was canonically erected (see Vol. I, p. 444), received praise for its work from Cardinal Wright, Prefect of the Congregation for the Clergy (ibid., p. 445), and was not officially in conflict with the Vatican until the Archbishop refused to terminate the existence of his Society and Seminary in response to an arbitrary and uncanonical demand following a discussion with three cardinals, which he was subsequently informed was a trial. The order came from a judge, who was not named, who had found him guilty of an offence which was not specified (ibid., pp. 45-49, and p. 284). This had taken place in 1975, which means that one could refer accurately to a war waged by the Vatican against Archbishop Lefebvre for three years, but not to "the cold war waged for years by Mgr. Lefebvre against the Pope and the Vatican." Singleton's phrase "the Pope and the Vatican" is of particular significance in view of the traditional loyalty of British Catholics toward the Holy Father. The reigning Pontiff when this report was written was Pope John Paul II, and Archbishop Lefebvre had not uttered a single word critical of him when Singleton wrote his report. We are thus faced with a calculated falsehood. Singleton might, in attempting to exculpate himself, claim that he was referring to the Archbishop’s attitude to Pope Paul VI. If he had meant this he could have said so. In point of fact the Archbishop never referred to Pope Paul VI in terms of anything but the most profound respect. I would challenge Singleton to cite a single instance where this was not the case (ibid, p. 287-288). Singleton went on to state that the Archbishop had "for a week waited for a response to his plea for a talk with the Holy Father." It would be interesting to learn how he came by this information since, as was the case with the audience with Pope Paul VI, the Archbishop: had not requested the audience, but had accepted an invitation to an audience arranged through the intervention of a third party. Singleton also revealed that the Archbishop had gone to the Vatican “in a state of humility.” One would hope that any Catholic received by the Vicar of Christ would go into his presence in a state of humility, but this is evidently not what Singleton meant, and in the sense which he obviously meant it the allegation is totally false. Singleton expressed surprise that the Pope had granted the Archbishop a private audience of one hour, forty-five minutes: "a historic record for a private audience." He continued: This is a typical example of the gutter-press standards adopted by Singleton and The Universe in their campaign of denigration against the Archbishop. The objective is obvious. The typical Universe reader, who will have no alter- native source of information, is intended to see the Archbishop as some sort of ecclesiastical Mafia godfather escorted by a band of gangsters. But what are the facts? What Singleton intends the reader to accept as a fascist/traditionalist fortress, an "enclave" accessible only through gates protected with "sharp spikes," was the official seminary of the Diocese of Albano. As the Society of St. Pius X was a religious order enjoying full recognition by the Vatican, the Bishop of Albano had had no scruples about selling it to Archbishop Lefebvre when a lack of vocations made its continued existence under his own auspices impracticable. The seminary was sold to the Society in strict accordance with the requirements of Canon Law. The "unclimbable walls" and "green gates with sharp spikes" were a feature of the property when the Archbishop bought it, and not something added to it by the Society, as Singleton could easily have discovered had he troubled to ask. In fact, this was so obvious that there was scarcely any need to ask. One has no alternative but to speak of a deliberate attempt to mislead the readers of The Universe. Note also the manner in which Singleton put the word "seminarians" in quotation marks. This means that he does not believe them to have been seminarians. If they were not seminarians what were they? Mafia gangsters perhaps? I have had the good fortune to visit this seminary and can confirm from my own experience that I have never met a more refined, cultured, tolerant, and totally Catholic group of young men than the professors and seminarians at Albano. Singleton cited a comment he had obtained from an "aide" of Archbishop Lefebvre. I quote: Evidently, Singleton concludes that no Universe reader will attach any credence to a statement made by an "aide" of Archbishop Lefebvre. The fact is that the prelate in question is not an "aide" of the Archbishop, but a young Italian Archbishop who is outstanding for his defense of orthodoxy, and is in perfectly good standing with the Holy See. Like a number of other prelates, he admires the stand Mgr. Lefebvre has made for tradition, and I have been honored to receive a letter from Mgr. Pintonello thanking me for my defense of the Archbishop. Singleton then went on to quote the Archbishop’s “aide” at Ecône, Mgr. Williamson. The word "aide" is, in itself, loaded, applicable to gangsters rather than prelates. In point of fact "Mgr." Williamson, an English priest, has never been granted or even aspired to the title of Monsignor. We shall now turn from the gutter-journalism of Singleton and The Universe to read the truth. Cardinal Siri’s MediationThe Holy Father was informed that I was in Rome by Cardinal Siri whom I had gone to visit on my arrival in Rome. Cardinal Siri wanted to intervene so that I should have this audience. I did not myself ask Cardinal Siri for the audience – I was thinking of having it later, as it was still too soon and it would be better to wait until the Pope had been informed and events would show what line the Pope would take, what he was thinking. But as soon as I met Cardinal Siri he said: “Fine! Next week I have an audience with the Pope, and if you like I'll talk to him about it. We'll certainly discuss it." He did have an audience the next week, on the Monday. I had visited him on Friday and on the following Monday he had his audience (he hadn't told me the day: it could have been Thursday, Friday). That Monday evening he told me, saying: "Good. It is arranged. The Holy Father will receive you on Saturday at 4:30 in his private apartments"- on Saturday, for, as the Pope had said to him, he wanted the meeting to be on Our Lady's day so that it would be under her patronage. I was to get in touch with one of his friends who would bring me to the Holy Father's private apartments – as it was not an official audience it could not take place in the offices where the Pope is accustomed to receive those who have an audience with him. I have often been to see the Popes, one after another, Pope Pius XII, Pope John XXIII, Pope Paul VI – but always in the official places, never in the private apartments. So I thought it better to keep out of sight for a day or two so as to avoid being eventually interrogated by people in the Vatican, who always know everything. It is difficult, I said to myself: I don't know how I can get to the Vatican without the news being in the press beforehand. Monday to Saturday evening! It would be a miracle if nothing appeared in the press. And, if it did get in, would I have the audience? Arrival at the Vatican Saturday afternoon, 18 November 1978However, things were so well arranged that nobody knew. I started on Saturday afternoon in Monsieur Pedroni’s car. He drove me to the little Holy Office Square where the entrance to the Vatican now is. There we were joined by the car of the secretary appointed by Cardinal Siri, and I went off in that car, so that no one should see a car with a Swiss – still less a Valais! – registration, especially as no one comes to the Vatican on Saturday afternoons: they are all away on holiday. But the Swiss Guards saw me change from one car to another. And it seems, though I did not notice it myself, that when Monsieur Pedroni and the Abbé du Chalard stayed on in the Holy Office Square, and were strolling under the colonnade of St. Peter's waiting for me to return from the audience, they were spotted by a young man who was already there, and who waited as they did, smiling from time to time. They both said: "That is surely someone in the know. He saw Monseigneur leave and is waiting for him to come back. He is certainly up to something!" And that is just what happened. As soon as I got back he rushed to the telephone to pass on his news, so that the same evening on the radio and the next the Italian newspapers the news was out. In the Pope’s Private ApartmentsWhen we got to the Court of Saint Damasus, there was nobody there except a Swiss Guard. Mgr. Magee, an Irishman, who had been secretary to Pope Paul VI, came down as soon as he saw the car and led me to a private life which goes up directly to the Holy Father’s private apartments. That made things easier. I did not know of that lift, and I should have taken the official lift up to the third floor – I knew where it was. So we reached the private apartments, and the secretary took me for a short visit up to the Chapel, a Chapel which is completely standard, not in the modern but totally in the old style – a fine simple altar, altar screen, candlesticks, the Cross, tabernacle; a nun dressed as a nun was praying before the Blessed Sacrament. I genuflected, stayed there for a few moments, and left. I was led then into a salon where there was a round table and seven or eight armchairs, all alike. I asked myself: “Where is the Holy Father going to sit?” I could not say. Was I be led into another salon, nearby? I stayed where I was, and the secretary said: “The Holy Father will be coming.” A Warm WelcomeAnd so it was. Scarcely had he closed the door when the Holy Father arrived and embraced me warmly. I confess that it occurred to me that he had done the same with the communist mayor a few days before! However, ecumenism is the current practice! So he gave me a friendly embrace, sat at my side, and, very simple, without ceremony, he got straight into the conservation: “I am glad to see you. I know one of your good friends, Cardinal Thiandoum. I had met him before, but he came specially to talk to about you.” So we spoke of Dakar and such-like subjects. I said that I had ordained him priest. The Pope asked: “Did you also consecrate him?” I replied: "No, I did not consecrate him as I had already left, but it was he who succeeded me: it was the Apostolic Delegate, my successor, who consecrated him." "Ah," he replied, "so you have been an Apostolic Delegate?" "Yes, indeed. I was Apostolic Delegate for eleven years." "So, then, you must have been engaged in diplomacy. "Oh, ever so little, ever so little." Though by his office an Apostolic Delegate is not a diplomat, he is nonetheless the delegate of the Holy Father and the French government agreed to give him all the honors of a Nuncio, which made him the diplomatic representative of the Holy Father. The Archbishop Explains the SeminaryWe chatted like that for a while. Then: "But we had better get down to business." "Yes, Holy Father. If you wish I will tell you briefly the position of the Fraternity, how it began, etc." I gave him the story that you know already, from Fribourg with Mgr. Charriere, the decree of erection, the canonical existence of the Fraternity for five years, perfectly legal in its foundation; the seminary authorized by Mgr. Adam; the Albano House authorized by Mgr. Mamie (though he is not very favorable, as I told the Pope) and by Mgr. Maccario. 1The Pope interjected: "So your Albano House is quite legal?" And I replied: "Yes." Someone must have told him it was a wildcat house! The Plan for the Suppression of the Fraternity“The French Bishops then became jealous of this seminary which was growing fast." And I quoted to him what Cardinal Lefebvre (whom I knew well: he is my cousin) had written and had printed: that there could be no pardoning Mgr. Lefebvre for taking up, at the Council, positions contrary to those of the French Bishops. I said: "You can see what the French episcopate already thought of me. Obviously, seeing this growing seminary and the prospect of its training priests as they could not do themselves, they were disturbed. So they entered into a veritable conspiracy, with Cardinal Villot and Cardinal Garrone, and later with Cardinal Wright and Cardinal Tabera: they decided to pretend to have an official investigation. They sent two Apostolic Visitors 2 who did not even visit the Chapel, and who left no word behind them, no report. I do not know what the conclusions were from their visit, but what they said was scandalous. I myself said to them: “I know very well why you are here – to condemn and to suppress this seminary. That means so many fewer priests, although the whole world is short of them and here in France the number of seminarists is going down rapidly. Why come to this seminary? What shall we do when there are no more priests?' To which they both replied at once: 'Oh, we’ll ordain married men!' They were from Rome, and that, you will agree, was a bit too much!" He listened, with great attention. I went on: "The meeting which I had with the Cardinals just for information was not a tribunal! Cardinal Garrone himself said so: it was merely an interview in which explanations could be given to supplement the (Apostolic) visitation of 11 November 1974. 3 Yet, a few weeks later came the condemnations, totally illegal, for it was Mgr. Mamie who withdrew the canonical institution, which he had no right to do: when a bishop has accepted a Congregation in his diocese he cannot suppress it: Rome has to issue a decree of suppression, not the bishop of the place (Canon 493). When that happened I went back to Rome, to the Signatura Apostolica, where Cardinal Staffa received my protest. I even paid the fee due for its reception; and, together with my lawyer and Cardinal Staffa 's delegate, we signed the protocol of the reception of my complaint at the Signatura. But a few days later Cardinal Villot wrote a letter in his own hand forbidding the examination of my case and an investigation into whether I was right or not." I said then to the Holy Father: "I don't know if the communists can improve on that!" He laughed. "Faced with that contempt for natural rights, good sense and canon law, it seemed to me that I was not obliged to submit to such a measure. That is why I kept the seminary going. Obviously that has made our relations with Rome delicate; but I hope the priests trained in the Fraternity are good priests, devoted to Rome." The Same Old Accusation: You are Against the Pope: NO!"Now what, precisely, are we accused of? Since this difficulty with Rome we are accused of being 'against the Pope, against the Council, and against the reforms, especially the liturgical reform.' Listen: we are not at all against the Pope – that is absolutely false! We were calumniated on those points to Pope Paul VI, and that is why it was made so difficult for us to see him, and why he was so hard on us. He was made to believe that I got the seminarians to take an oath against the Pope. He accused me of that in my audience with him. That is too bad! I can understand why they did not want me to go near the Pope – they had told him such serious calumnies." I added: "It was not through Cardinal Villot that I saw the Pope. It happened quite unexpectedly. A Father LaBellarte, whom I did not know, said to me one day: 'Go to Rome and see the Pope. He wants to see you.' I replied: “I shall not see the Pope. They have always prevented me from seeing him. I’ve been waiting for five years to see him, and they have refused me every time.’ ‘Oh, yes, you'll see him.' In fact, I saw Pope Paul VI, but against the will of Cardinal Villot who, the evening before, learning that I was to have the audience, forced the Pope to have Mgr. Benelli present at our audience.” 4I could tell that he was listening to me with great attention and interest. I told him again: "We pray for the Pope. We are perhaps one of the few seminaries which still pray for the Pope. At Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament we sing the prayer for the Pope, in the Canon of the Mass we name the Pope. The Albano House was founded precisely for the acquisition of romanita, 5 to attach us to Rome, to the successor of Peter to all that is represented by Rome and the Roman Church.” It was then that he asked me: "How many seminarians have you?” “One hundred and seventy." “Ah, one hundred and seventy!" “Yes, there are thirty at Albano, ninety at Ecône, and the rest at our two other seminaries in the U.S.A. and Germany." You are Against the Council! No! I continued: “As to the Council, there are certainly things in the Council which are hard to admit; but I should be ready to sign a sentence like this: 'I accept the Acts of the Council interpreted in the sense of tradition.' That is a sentence which I think I could eventually accept and sign, if you so wish.” “But that is fine, fine! But that is ordinary and obvious! Would you really agree to sign such a sentence?" I replied: "Certainly, I am ready to sign it, provided it contains the phrase 'interpreted in the sense of tradition'." He said again: "But that is just ordinary," He seemed to be thinking that that settled the business of the Pope and the business of the Council, Both questions were settled, so now what about the question of the Liturgy? The Liturgical Reform…in Poland!I said, "Oh, yes. The question of the liturgy…We are evidently very attached to the Mass of Saint Pius V and also to the traditional rites. All around us we see these reforms and their consequences: the destruction of churches, the closing of seminaries, the lack of respect for the Blessed Sacrament." At that point, of course, and without a pause, as though his mind were still in Poland, he said to me: "But, you know, in Poland it is all going very well! The reforms have been effected, but I assure you there is plenty of respect for the Blessed Sacrament. Besides, we have had lots of difficulties with the communists. Our people are very respectful to the Blessed Sacrament, and are very devout. We fight for devotion to the Holy Eucharist, processions, any show of devotion: we fight. And what has caused us most pain, let me tell you, and made us suffer, is the suppression of Latin. I myself think that it was most painful for us. But now! What do you want to do? The seminarians no longer know Latin; they all read the breviary in the vernacular; Latin is not taught any- where; what do you want to do? What do you want us to do? Besides, perhaps the people understand the Mass better, what is said at Mass." I then permitted myself to say: " Are you not afraid, all the same, that because of those reforms a certain Protestant and neomodemist spirit will in the end creep slowly but surely into seminaries, parishes, everywhere?" "Oh, I know very well that there have been complaints from the faithful who are afraid. We are not altogether free from difficulties, but, after all, they don't amount to much." Then I said to him: "Holy Father, listen. I have in my pocket a letter from a Polish bishop." He looked at it: "N..., he is the communists' Enemy Number One. They are scared of him." He read part of the letter and then he said to me: "Yes, but you have to be careful. I wonder if this letter is genuine. One of the communist tricks is to compose false letters and spread them left, right and center as to divide the Catholics and divide the bishops." “Of course, I am no judge of that." “Anyway," he said, "these liturgical questions: they are disciplinary questions, disciplinary: perhaps we had better look into the question." Religious Liberty
He went back to the Council: "You know, the Decree on Religious Liberty has been a great help to us in Poland." “No doubt. It can serve in that way – an argumentum ad hominen; but all the same there have been serious consequences of that declaration since its approval by the Council, above all the laicization and de-Christianization of Catholic States." I quoted Colombia, the Canton of Valais, and the words of the Nuncio at Berne whom I had myself asked why Mgr. Adam had written to his diocesans inviting them to vote suppression of the first article in the Valais Constitution according to which the Catholic religion is the only one officially recognized in the Canton of Valais. I said to the Nuncio: “That is a bit too much!” The Nuncio replied: “But the social reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ is very difficult these days.” Then I said: "And the Encyclical Quas Primas. What about that, then?" He replied: "Today, Pope Pius XI would not write it!” The Holy Father then said to me: "That's not the way to say it. We should say, rather: 'He would not write it in the same way’." I replied: “That may be so…but the social Reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ should certainly be acknowledged in Catholic States. There are plenty of communist States based on the communist religion, and Muslim States whose official religion is Islam, and Protestant States whose official religion is Protestantism. I don't see why Catholic States…why there can't be officially Catholic States." The Pope answered: “Oh, yes, yes, that's true." “We Must Come to a Practical Solution”"But now," he said, "we must be practical, we must come to a conclusion." I answered: "Could you nominate an intermediary with whom I could discuss, and examine things more closely?" He said: "Precisely! I thought of that, and it will be Cardinal Seper. I very much want it to be Cardinal Seper, he is a friend of mine, I know him well, he knows your business and will be dealing with it. I'll call him at once."
Cardinal Seper: “You are making a banner out of the Mass of Saint Pius V!”"Good! He is efficient!" The Pope got up at once – smartly, I can tell you! He is lively. He went to his office and phoned for Cardinal Seper to come, and he arrived three or four minutes later. He sat on my right. I wish a photograph could have been taken! The Pope on my left, Cardinal Seper on my right – very democratic! The Pope summed up quickly for the Cardinal and said: "We must find a solution without delay." But the Cardinal then proved difficult. "Yes," he said. "But wait a moment. They are making a banner out of the Mass of Saint Pius V." "Oh," I said, "Not a banner! The Mass is of capital importance, essential in the Church, and that is why for us it is a grave and primary problem.” The Cardinal answered: "What Pope Paul VI said to me was true! He would have made it possible to say the Mass of Saint Pius V if you had not turned that Mass into a banner!” By that he meant that we criticize the other Mass, that we do not want it: and, upon my word, that is exactly true. He went on: "Monseigneur, two and a half years ago you came to see me. "So I did." "You came to ask my advice. What did I tell you? I told you: 'Obedience, obedience, obedience, obedience!' There!" "Yes. And what did obedience require me to do?" "If you had closed your seminary and all your Houses, if you had stopped everything, stopped it for a year and a half or two years, everything could then have been arranged." "That I think is a totally gratuitous assertion. I do not know what would have become of us. We should have been dead, and we should have continued dead, just that!"
The End of the AudienceThe Pope intervened: "Yes. Look into that…stay here, I have to go, Cardinal Baggio is waiting for me with dossiers this high! Your Eminence, stay and talk." But the Cardinal had no wish to stay with me. He got up, saying: “No. Not now. In any case, Monseigneur, you will be receiving a letter in two or three weeks asking you to come again to Rome for an interview. We can talk of these things then. Besides, you must be given the results of the study we made of what you sent to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith." That was the end. I paid my respects to the Pope who once more embraced me warmly. I said good-bye to Cardinal Seper, and we parted. And that's how matters stand for the moment. Can We give a Direction to the Reform, and Limit the Damage?What I noticed in the Holy Father is that he is very pious, that he has a great love for the Blessed Virgin, that he is completely anti-marxist (I do not say anti-communist, but anti-marxist), and that he will do all he can to suppress abuses and keep the reform within limit; but I must confess that he appears to be basically in agreement with the Council and with the reforms – he just does not question them. And that is serious, because it means that he is for ecumenism, for collegiality, and for religious liberty. Always the same Three Things!Those are the three capital ideas from the Council. It is they which make the spirit of the Council. They are what the progressives wanted and what in practice they obtained – watered down perhaps, but they got them, and they will not loosen their hold on them! Study those ideas, and see how serious they are! 1. Collegiality: that means number against person, the law of number against the authority of the person. It is no longer the person who has authority, but number! It is democracy, or at least the democratic principle. It is no longer Our Lord Who commands through the authorities (it is Our Lord Who is the Authority, and in the Church all those who have authority – Pope, Bishops, Priests – share in the authority of Our Lord). By the very fact that number is put in the place of the person, that authority is given to number, authority is in the people, in the rank and file, in the group. That is absolutely contrary to what Our Lord wanted, to the personal authority which He always wanted to give: the Pope has a personal authority; the Bishop has a personal authority by his consecration; the Priest has a personal authority by his sacramental character, his ordination; in the Church authority is personal. The subject of authority (he who is going to exercise it) may be designated democratically, but the authority cannot be so given. That is an important principle. On a false principle Our Lord could lose His crown. 2. Ecumenism: Fraternity. That is not directly contrary to Our Lord, but ecumenism is, for it is a fraternity which destroys paternity. Who makes the unity of brothers? It is the father. Ecumenism makes us all brothers in a sentimental communion but no longer in the faith, no longer in the faith taught us by Our Lord, no longer in the "Father" we have in the Creed. That unity is not in the Father but in a vague feeling of subjectivism, of religious sentiment : it is Modernism. 3. Religious Liberty: that is conscience in place of law. Once more something subjective in place of law, which is objective. And what is this law? It is the Word of God. The Word of God is the Law: Our Savior Himself is our Law. You can see how all that is directly opposed to the authority of Our Lord! On Those Three Principles the Church Cannot Survive.That, for the Church, is a catastrophe. The Church cannot live in an atmosphere directly opposed to Our Lord, its Founder, opposed to what makes the unity of the Church, her truth and her law. They have no hope of damming the harm done by those principles. They will try to set limits, to make the catechisms a little more orthodox; but until they have gone back to those fundamentals of the Council and brought them into line with tradition there is nothing to be done. It is that which is serious. He is no Longer a Polish Bishop!It is a pity. He seems to be attached to order and discipline; but he is certainly filled with Liberal ideas. Cardinal Wyszynski could well tell himself: "He did well as Archbishop of Cracow, because he fought the communists." That is what makes the unity of Poland, anti-communism and devotion to the Blessed Virgin – the devil is in communism, and then there is the Blessed Virgin: with two such elements it is easy to see how the Poles can be united among themselves and with their bishops. But Poland and the circumstances of Poland are one thing: what matters is what he is going to do as Pope. For in the West, communism does not have such a hold, and as for devotion to the Blessed Virgin, he himself has it, but where is it now in the surrounding world? And that is the problem. What he was able to do as bishop united with the other Polish bishops to save the reign of Our Lord from disappearing – will he be able to do that as Pope, in other, completely different, circumstances? Hope of RecoveryAt least we can pray to the Blessed Virgin that when he becomes aware of the gross difficulties he will meet in the exercise of his power as Pope he will reconsider himself and perhaps conclude that he must return to Tradition. That is a grace for which we should pray to the Blessed Virgin. In another three or four months we shall know one way or another, when he has had a look at his surroundings and at what is happening in Western Europe. 1. Mgr. Maccario was bishop of the Diocese of Albano, near Rome, from whom Archbishop Lefebvre acquired, and established canonically, his Italian seminary.
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Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre Volume 2, Chapter XXX
Further Correspondence with Cardinal Seper
30 November 1978
12 December 1978
Letter of Mgr. Lefebvre to Cardinal Seper 19 December 1978
Letter of Cardinal Seper to Mgr. Lefebvre
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Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre Volume 2, Chapter XXXI
Letter of Archbishop Lefebvre to the Pope
24 December 1978
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Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre Volume 2, Chapter XXXII
Archbishop Lefebvre before the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
11 January 1979
Introduction to the ConferenceThis Introduction was read on 11 January at 10 o’clock, at the inauguration of the conference which was to run on into 12 January. At the interview those present were His Erninence Cardinal Seper, His Excellency Mgr. Harner, Secretary for the S.C. for the Doctrine of the Faith, R. Fr. Duroux, two other experts and a secretary.
Introduction by His Eminence the Cardinal PrefectI thank Your Excellency for being willing to come to this meeting, the object and spirit of which I must now specify. Our talks result from the mission entrusted to our Congregation by Pope Paul VI on 19 October 1976, which was confirmed by his two successors, Pope John Paul I and His Holiness John Paul II, that is to say, the examination of your case, not only under its doctrinal aspect but also under such disciplinary and pastoral aspects as it may have. We have fulfilled this task according to the prescriptions of our Agendi ratio in doctrinarum examine of 15 January 1971. It is within that framework that I sent you, on 26 January and 22 March 1978, two letters of "contestation" to which you gave written replies on 28 February and 13 April of the same year. It is within that framework that this conference is taking place. Our business is, in fact, the conference provided for in articles 13-15 of that Ratio agendi. It will help if I read the articles now. (The three articles were then read.) These articles lead, for our reunion, to these consequences:
1. We are acting at the level of the external forum, without entering that of your subjective intentions and your conscience. 2. We are not here to proceed to a judgment, nor even to make decisions, but to provide full information for those who have to judge and decide, that is to say, the Cardinals who are members of this Congregation and, in the last resort, the Sovereign Pontiff. 3. Our questions will be therefore limited, taking account of the two written answers you have already given; they are formulated for the purpose of clarification and are not intended to be controversial. 4. Your answers to these different questions will be written down, and the completed version will be submitted to you for approval and for any requests for rectification. When signed by yourself and by me they will constitute the only document receivable as evidence of this interview. It will be submitted to examination by the Cardinals of this Congregation and will be passed on to the Holy Father. Let me add that silence and total discretion will surround all that happens in this reunion. All those participating in the name of the Congregation are, besides, bound to rigorous observance of pontifical secret (cf. Instruction of 4 February 1974, art. I, para. 3). I should like to conclude by remarking that we should not confine ourselves to what is necessarily technical in this conference. It is meant as a stage in a process of reconciliation which is ardently desired; but I think it is an indispensable stage, for the reconciliation must be without ambiguity and it can only take place if there is absolute clarity. It is on the basis of those reflections that I now wish to open the conference properly so called.
EXAMINATION 11 and 12 January 1979
The answers to this "questionnaire" were first of all drawn up by the secretary after the interview. I was allowed to modify them as I liked. The whole set of questions and answers had then to be signed by H.E. Cardinal Seper and by myself. The answers published here are the corrected answers. 1In the main the answers were written up well, and there were few corrections or modifications.
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In a preliminary note (12 July 1976) to a letter addressed to the Holy Father, you wrote: That idea is made explicit in the homily given on the preceding 29 June during the ordination Mass at Ecône: QUESTION: Are we to conclude from those statements that according to you, the Pope, promulgating and imposing the new Ordo Missae, and all the bishops who have received it, have founded and assembled visibly around them a new "Conciliar" Church radically incompatible with the Catholic Church?
ANSWER: I remark, first of all, that the expression "Conciliar Church" comes not from me but from H.E. Mgr. Benelli who, in an official letter, asked that our priests and seminarians should submit themselves to the "Conciliar Church." 2I consider that a spirit tending to Modernism and Protestantism shows itself in the conception of the new Mass and in all the Liturgical Reform as well. Protestants themselves say that it is so, and Mgr. Bugnini himself admits it implicitly when he states that this Liturgical Reform was conceived in an ecumenical spirit. (I could prepare a study showing how that Protestant spirit exists in the Ordo Missae.)
II
QUESTION: Do you hold that a faithful Catholic can think and say that a sacramental rite, in particular that of the Mass, approved and promulgated by the Sovereign Pontiff, can be out of conformity with the Catholic faith or "favoring heresy"?
ANSWER: That rite in itself does not profess the Catholic faith in as clear a manner as did the old Ordo Missae, and consequently it can favor heresy. But I do not know to whom to attribute it, nor if the Pope is responsible for it. What is astounding is that an Ordo Missae savoring of Protestantism and therefore “favoring heresy” should be spread abroad by the Roman Curia.
III
QUESTION: Do you admit that the doctrine of the Council of Trent on the Eucharistic Sacrifice is expressly and absolutely reaffirmed in no. 2 of the Proemium of the Institutio Generalis Missalis Romani promulgated by Pope Paul VI?
ANSWER: I admit that in the Proemium of the edition of 1970 the doctrine of the Council of Trent is expressed materially. But the fact that it had been necessary to make an addition shows clearly the incomplete character of the edition of 1969. Besides, the whole rite of Mass has remained just as it was in the edition of 1969.
IV QUESTION: You have administered the sacrament of Confirmation in various dioceses against the will of the bishop of the place, sometimes even to children who had already received it. You justify these acts saying that the sacramental formula of the new Ordo Confirmationis is often badly translated or shortened, or even omitted, and that in certain dioceses Confirmation is no longer given. a) In administering Confirmation which sacramental formula have you used yourself? (If Mgr. Lefebvre says he used the old one, ask him if he recognizes the new one as valid, and, if he says Yes, ask him why he did not use it.) b) If the facts you have alleged to justify the exercise of this ministry were found to be true, would that give you the right to act without taking account of the Church's discipline fixed by Canon Law?
ANSWER: To a) I used the old sacramental formula. But I recognize the validity of the new Latin formula. I use the old formula to meet the wishes of the faithful. To b) " Salus animarum suprema lex" – the salvation of souls is the supreme law. I cannot refuse the sacrament to the faithful who ask me for it. It is at the request of the faithful, attached to Tradition, that I use the old sacramental formula, and also for safety's sake, keeping to formulas which have communicated grace for centuries with certainty.
V QUESTION: According to Catholic doctrine, it is forbidden to repeat the conferring of a sacrament which imprints a character if the minister is not certain of the invalidity of the sacramental rite conferred before or at least unless he has a prudens dubium of validity. How did you ascertain that each of the children already confirmed had been confirmed invalidly?
ANSWER: I asked each of the parents and the children to find out if they had been confirmed and how it had been done. Most of the children had not been confirmed before. For those who had been I could have a prudent doubt of the validity of the sacrament they had received. I add that I give Confirmation only with reluctance, delaying as long as possible in the hope that the bishops will do it.
VI QUESTION: The reiteration of a sacrament without there being at least a prudens dubium of validity is objectively speaking a serious lack of respect for sacramental worship. Did it ever occur to you that you were running such a risk?
ANSWER: No, for, as I have just said, I asked parents and children beforehand, and I could thus have a prudens dubium of the validity of the sacrament administered before.
VII
QUESTION: In your answer of 13 April 1978 to the Sacred Congregation and, more explicitly, in your minor work Le coup de maitre de Satan, pp. 46-47, you maintain that the priests ordained by you now find themselves, in view of the present circumstances (the liturgical reform everywhere, bringing doubt of the validity of the sacraments), in that necessity in which Canon Law itself grants the jurisdictional powers required for the validity of the sacraments. Thus, referring to canons 882, 1098, and 2261, par. 2, you consider that they have the right to administer Baptism, Penance, Anointing of the sick and to receive the consent of spouses. That ministry is exercised in the priories you have founded on your own initiative in various dioceses. a) Who are the auctores probati (approved authors) who share your interpretation of the above-mentioned canons? b) Is not that to think and act as though the legitimate hierarchy did not exist, and to begin to form, willingly or not, a dissident community?
ANSWER: To a) In my interpretation I join together canon 882 and 2261 par. 2. For both of them I refer to the explanations given in Jones's treatise. It is a very broad interpretation but it is justified by an exceptional situation. One can see in these canons the maternal spirit of the Church which does not wish to leave souls in danger of eternal death. To b) It may be thought that in a general way, in some countries, the hierarchy is not playing its part. There is no question of my founding a dissident community, but of ensuring that the Catholic Church continues on a basis of Canon Law and the great principles of theology.
VIII QUESTION: You have founded, or taken the responsibility for, religious communities which are independent of any regular authority; you have opened a Carmel (Quiévrain) and you are preparing to found a monastery of Cistercian monks; you admit auxiliary brothers and cooperators; you do not hesitate to receive religious professions. Who has authorized you to do all that? Is such activity of yours in conformity with the Canon Law of religious life?
ANSWER: As for the Fraternity of St. Pius X, its statutes provide for the reception of auxiliary brothers and women religious. As for the Carmel at Quiévrain, it is not I who founded it; it is an enterprise of my sister's who left her Carmel in Australia with the authorization of her Prioress to found another monastery. I have not made a Cistercian foundation, nor do I foresee one.
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QUESTION: The " Pieuse Union" which bears the name "Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X" was erected 1 November 1970 by H.E. Mgr. François Charriére, Bishop of Fribourg. a) Does the juridical statute of the Fraternity allow you to proceed to ordinations? b) If Yes, on the basis of what canon or of what other juridical document?
ANSWER: To a) Initially, I think not. In any case, before 1976 the members of the Fraternity were incardinated in different dioceses. However, I began to have doubts, at first when H. E. Mgr. Adam told me that the Fraternity allowed me to incardinate (which I did not do at that time), and especially when Cardinal Antoniutti gave two priest religious an indult permitting them to enter the Fraternity straight from their religious order. That meant that the Sacred Congregation for Religious considered the Fraternity capable of incardinating. In any case, before 1976 I never proceeded to ordain without having dimissorial letters. To b) No answer required.
X QUESTION: a) Before proceeding to the different diaconal and sacerdotal ordinations that you have done, but especially be- fore those of 29 June 1976, did you receive for all candidates the dimissorial letters required by law? b) If not, why were you not withheld from proceeding with those ordinations by the knowledge of the grave penalties incurred in that case both by the ordaining bishop and by the seminarians ordained?
ANSWER: To a) I have just answered affirmatively for the ordinations prior to 1976. I shall have to make sure about those on 29 June 1976. At present I consider the seminarians I ordain to be incardinated in the Fraternity. To b) I reckon that all the measures that have been taken against me are illegal, and that consequently neither I nor the seminarians I ordain incur canonical penalties.
XI QUESTION: Before proceeding to the ordinations on 29 June 1976, you were twice informed of the Holy Father's express wish that you should refrain from doing them. a) That being so, on what provisions of the law do you base yourself to legitimize the ordinations you did on that day? b) Did you understand that in proceeding to those ordinations you were increasing the gravity, for yourself and for the seminarians ordained, of the responsibilities and the penalties already incurred?
ANSWER: I should first of all recall the reasons which make me think the measures taken against me to be illegal: The decree of suppression of the Saint Pius X Fraternity should not have been issued by H.E. Mgr. Mamie but by Holy See. I was not informed of any result or any act relating to the Apostolic Visitation of the Ecône Seminary. The Commission of Cardinals before which I was summoned had neither a mandate nor a precise purpose; in spite of the promises made, I was refused the written account of the proceedings and the registration of the interviews. I entered an appeal before the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura. Five days later, a letter from the Cardinal Secretary of State forbade that Tribunal to act on my appeal. That was pressure by the executive power on the judicial power. For those reasons I could not consider valid the decisions taken in my regard. To a) I therefore answer that I do not recognize as legal the measures taken against me. Moreover, I could not obey the will of the Holy See, for I could not verify what exactly was the will of the Holy Father. To b) No answer required.
XII
QUESTION: On the following 22 July you received official notification of the suspension a divinis declared against you by the Holy Father. That disciplinary measure forbade you to say Mass, administer the Sacraments, or preach. You did not submit to the new order you had received. a) Abstracting from your subjective responsibility, and therefore from the censures which may or may not weigh on your conscience, do you admit that, in the external forum, you are under the penalty of suspension and therefore obliged to behave publicly as suspended? b) If No, why not? c) If Yes, what justification do you give for your behavior which causes and continues scandal in the Church?
ANSWER: To a) No, I do not admit that I am under the penalty of suspension, not even in the external forum. To b) The reason is that all the measures taken against me (since November 1974) are illegal and invalid. The first measure is plainly so, and the others are only the consequences of the first. To c) The scandal which exists is the destruction of the Church, and not what I do. I think on the contrary that my action has served the Church, prompting reactions to that destruction.
XIII QUESTION: The First Vatican Council defined that the Roman Pontiff has “a plenary and sovereign power of jurisdiction over the whole Church, not only in what pertains to faith and morals but also in what pertains to the discipline and government of the Church,” and this power is ordinary and immediate "over each and all of the pastors and the faithful" (DS, 3064). a) Do you accept these assertions as a dogma of faith? b) Supposing – for the sake of argument-that the Pope were to make errors, do you think he loses his power of jurisdiction on that account?
ANSWER: To a) Yes. To b) No, I do not think so if it is a question of errors in government and discipline. It is clear that one may not follow him in his errors, especially if they have consequences for the faith. On the other hand, one must know if it is the Pope who commands. My uncertainty about the real will of the Pope is based on the fact that for a long time I was prevented from seeing Pope Paul VI, and that, when I met him, I found that he had been told calumnies against me.
XIV QUESTION: Do you not make a selection in the texts of Vatican II, rejecting not only disciplinary measures which trouble you but also doctrinal assertions which you consider contrary to the faith? According to what principle do you decide what can be retained and what must be rejected? Who decides in the last resort in the Church what is and what is not in conformity with Tradition? By publicly criticizing Vatican Council II and progressively enlarging your accusations against it, have you not cast discredit on the supreme magisterial authorities, the Pope and the Bishops united with him in Council under his authority? And have you not contributed to the division of Catholics?
ANSWER: To 1) I am ready to sign a declaration accepting Vatican Council II interpreted according to Tradition. I consider that in certain texts there are things contrary to Tradition and to the Magisterium of the Church as it has previously expressed itself, notably in the Declaration on Religious Liberty. To 2) According to Tradition. To 3) It is the Magisterium of the Church. But here I observe:
- that the Second Vatican Council must be understood as a pastoral magisterium;
- that after this Council there have not been, on the part of the Pope or on the part of the Commission for the interpretation of the decrees of Vatican Council II, acts establishing an authentic elucidation of the conciliar texts, in particular those concerning religious liberty.
To 4) I do not think so. However, if my criticisms have seemed stronger after the Council, it is because of its application in reforms which have confirmed the fears of interpretation of the texts of the Council in a Liberal and progressive sense. I may have used somewhat exaggerated expressions in my addresses, but their literary genre must be kept in mind. But nobody should be forbidden to criticize a text, even if, in so doing, he indirectly attacks the authorities. It is the authorities who ought to give a fuller explanation of the texts of the Council in the sense of Tradition. Finally, I do not divide Catholics. I think it is the Council which has been the occasion for the divisions already existing in the Church to show themselves in a crucial way.
XV QUESTION: Canon 1325, par .2, which treats of schism, runs as follows: “After being baptized, if anyone (…) refuses to be the subject to the Supreme Pontiff or to be in communion with the members of the Church subject to him, he is schismatic." How does your way of acting in the concrete differ from the schismatic behavior defined in this canon?
ANSWER: I do not refuse to be subject to the Sovereign Pontiff. The best proof of that is my recent visit to the Holy Father and my presence here. I think I am allowed, as many others have done in the course of history, to show that I have reservations about some decisions of the Pope and the Roman Curia. But I do that out of love for the Church and the Successor of Peter, hoping that things will come right quickly; and I do not consider myself as a leader. If papal infallibility is not involved, a bishop’s public presentation of his difficulties does not constitute an act of rebellion if he is relying on Tradition. The difficulties that I raise about the whole of the liturgical reform take account of the fact that Pope Paul VI considered it to be a disciplinary reform.
XVI QUESTION: In your letter of 13 April 1978 to the Sacred Congregation you enclosed "General considerations on the state of the Church since Vatican Council II which alone permit of an adequate reply to the questions asked about the Ordo Missae, our continuation of the activity of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X in spite of the interdictions received from the bishops and from Rome." On the basis of those considerations, it seems to us that your position can be stated in the following thesis: A bishop, judging in conscience that the Pope and the Episcopate are in general no longer using their authority to ensure the faithful an exact transmission of the faith, may legitimately, so as to maintain the Catholic faith, ordain priests without being a diocesan bishop, without having received dimissorial letters and against the formal and express prohibition of the Pope, and may assign to those priests the exercise of the ecclesiastical ministry in different dioceses. a) Does that thesis state your position correctly? b) Is that thesis in conformity with the traditional doctrine of the Church to which you mean to hold fast?
ANSWER: 3To a) No. I have not acted, starting from a principle like that one. It is the facts, the circumstances in which I found myself, which compelled me to take certain positions, and in particular the fact that I had in the Fraternity of St. Pius X a work already legally constituted which I had to continue. To b) I think that history can furnish examples of similar acts done, in certain circumstances, not against but aside from the will of the Pope. But this question is too serious and too important to be answered at once. I prefer, therefore, to postpone my answer.
XVII
QUESTION: How do you envisage the return to a normal state of affairs of yourself and of the priests, seminarians and faithful who count on you? What you reckon you can ask and hope for: a) from the Holy See: in what concerns your seminaries, your priories, and the celebration of the Mass of Saint Pius V? b) from the bishops and from the episcopal conferences dependent on them? What are you ready to do, yourself, to that end? What undertakings are you prepared to subscribe? a) in what concerns the works established by you, notably the seminaries and the priories? b) in what concerns your teaching (on the Mass and the Council…) and your behavior (ordinations, confirmations, eucharistic celebrations, etc.).
ANSWER: To 1) a) The Fraternity of St. Pius X includes both seminaries and priories; its purpose is to found seminaries (in the spirit of the Council, that is to say, international seminaries with a view to better distribution of the clergy, and with a whole year of spirituality), 4 to train priests, to give spiritual help to priests and to open houses for spiritual exercises. I should hope to obtain that this Fraternity be recognized as a society of common life without vows, directly under the Pope, and dependent on the Sacred Congregation for Religious. That implies that I ask for the continuance of both seminaries and priories: the priories, purposely established in the countryside, are meant to be at the disposition of the bishops chiefly for the apostolate of spiritual exercises and the spiritual support of priests. I shall send you a copy of the statutes of the Fraternity. Finally, with regard to the liturgy, I ask that the members of the Fraternity of St. Pius X: - may use for the celebration of Mass the Ordo of St. Pius V, it being understood that they will celebrate only according to that;
- may use the old liturgical rites;
- and in particular may be ordained according to the old rite of ordination, which includes the tonsure and minor orders.
To 1) b) I am prepared to go and see the bishops of those where the Fraternity has a foundation. I expect from them a recognition of the priories according to Canon Law, the acceptance of the ministry performed by the members of the Fraternity living there. To 2) a) I am prepared to subscribe the undertakings imposed by Law, without asking for special privileges. I can accept transitory phase, including the nomination of an Apostolic Delegate. To 2) b) As I said above (under ~IV, 1) I am ready to sign a declaration accepting Vatican Council II interpreted according to Tradition. As to my teaching on the Mass, it can only be what is in conformity with the traditional Magisterium of the Church. As to my behavior, on the hypothesis of normalization, I shall conform myself to the prescriptions of the Law. Moreover, I can accept to suspend ordinations and confirmations for several months if I can be certain of a favorable response to the foregoing request. That proposition is one that I have already made in the past.
1. On the signing and delivery of these answers, see the Explanatory Note on p. 301.
2. See Apologia, Vol. I, p. 199.
3. Mgr. Lefebvre’s first oral reply was: You are setting a trap for me!
4. See Apologia, Vol. I, P. 445 for the testimony of Cardinal Wright to the effect that the society of St. Pius X conformed to the end proposed by Vatican Council II for the distribution of the clergy in the world
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Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre Volume 2, Chapter XXXIII
Further Correspondence with the Vatican
12 January 1979
Letter of Mgr. Lefebvre to the Sovereign Pontiff
Holy Father, Acting on the desire expressed during the audience that Your Holiness kindly granted me, I responded to Cardinal Seper’s invitation after asking him for information about the way the interviews would be conducted. I was hoping that there would be private interviews, and not a procedure like a regular trial. But, to my surprise, I was not allowed to have a witness, though I was faced with six persons, five of them interrogators. I was told it was just a question of finding facts, but I learned from the statements of the Director of the Vatican Press Office that the facts were be submitted to Cardinals who would pass judgment and come to a decision which would be submitted to you for approval. All that seems to me to be on the lines of what was done to me before, all the more as the Cardinals who condemned me are once more to be the judges. For that reason I appeal to You, Holy Father, to study the procés-verbal signed by His Eminence Cardinal Seper and myself and make your own judgment on it. I cannot doubt that a solution is possible, with the grace of God; but I am afraid that the decision of the Cardinals who have already condemned me would make any solution impossible. I do not know if the letter I sent Your Holiness on Christmas Eve reached you, so I enclose a copy of it, and also a copy of the letter I sent to His Eminence Cardinal Seper. I beg Your Holiness to accept the homage of my filial devotion in Christ and Mary. Marcel Lefebvre formerly Archbishop-Bishop of Tulle
13 January 1979
Letter of Cardinal Seper to Mgr. Lefebvre
Your Excellency, I deeply regret that your state of fatigue did not allow you to return this morning to the Congregation for the conclusion of our exchanges. I send you best wishes for your health. I enclose the introductory text which I read to you, in the presence of H. E. Mgr. Hamer, on the 11th of this month at the start of our meetings, and also the Ratio agendi from which I quoted three articles. It seems to me that these documents made the object of our talks quite clear, within the framework of the procedure in our Congregation, that is, the examination of the results of the Conference by the Ordinary Congregation of Cardinals, before their being sent for the definitive decision of the Holy Father. According to your wish, I am sending you also the procés- verbal of these interviews, consisting, as I have informed you (point n. 4), of the questions put to you and the answers you gave to them, which were read to you at the end of each session. I enclose also, as parts of the acts, the written reply to question n. XVI b, which you sent to me. You will thus have the opportunity to study the acts at your leisure, and to add the corrections you consider necessary according to the oral responses you gave me in the course of the conference. I thank you for your readiness to return them within eight days, as you proposed, through the Apostolic Nuncio in Switzerland. Finally, I take notice of the fact that you will ask the Holy Father to make the judgment himself, after studying this document. Like you, I hope a satisfactory solution can be found. With warm and respectful devotion in the Lord, Franc. Card. Seper
Prefect
14 January 1979
Letter of Mgr. Lefebvre to Cardinal Seper
Your Eminence, Please excuse my writing to you again to explain the reasons for my misgivings and my surprise. The letter you kindly sent me yesterday, 13 January, says: “It seems to me that these documents made the object of our talks quite clear, within the framework of the procedure in our Congregation, that is, the examination of the results of the Conference by the Ordinary Congregation of Cardinals, before their being sent for the definitive decision of the Holy Father.” But it appears from the regulation that it is a question not just of examination but of decision and therefore of judgment N. 18), and that is what was stated by the Director of the Vatican Press Office. That is what I could not deduce from the exposition made before the conference. For that changes the whole character of the talks. I had two reasons for thinking that the only judge was the Holy Father: first, your exposition insisting on the informative character of the talks and the examination of them, and secondly the express desire of the Holy Father that this business be entrusted personally to you as a trusted friend of the Holy Father. There was no question of submitting this business to judges other than the Holy Father – certainly not to judges who have already judged and condemned. I therefore reject in advance the decisions which will be taken by judges who have already taken part in my condemnation such as Cardinals Villot, Garrone, Baggio and Wright. That is why I am writing to the friend of the Holy Father, asking you to take direct to the Holy Father himself the documents of the inquiry after we have signed them. I hope to be back in ten days with the documents and in the hope of meeting you, thus helping forward a solution of this business, with the consent of the Holy Father and the grace of God. With respect and cordial devotion in Christ and Mary. Marcel Lefebvre
29 January 1979
Letter of Mgr. Lefebvre to Cardinal Seper
Your Eminence, At the moment for putting my signature to the documents resulting from the interviews of 11 and 12 January, I have the feeling that I am cooperating in a procedure which it is impossible for me to admit, for the reasons given in my letters of 12 and 14 January. I had hoped that the Holy Father’s desire to entrust the problem to you personally would have led you to avoid throwing me back into the hands of those who have already condemned me. That is why I entrust everything to the judgment of the Holy Father. With respect and devotion in Our Lord and Our Lady, Marcel Lefebvre formerly Archbishop-Bishop of Tulle
28 January 1979
Letter of Cardinal Seper Archbishop Lefebvre
Your Excellency, In the course of two conversations on 11 and 12 January last, you answered the questions put by the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. A copy of the transcript of this discussion has been sent to you for your approval. It is anticipated that the procés-verbal of the conversations will be endorsed with two signatures, yours and mine. As you have not yet sent me such approval, I have presented the Holy Father with a copy of the transcript as it was drawn up during the conversations. The Holy Father is aware of the request you made to him in your letters of 24 December, and particularly 12 January, 1 and wished to read this procés-verbal personally. Now the Holy Father has authorized me to resume contact with you with the object of considering the procedure which should be followed henceforth, and, amongst other things, of shedding light upon some problems concerning the answers you gave in the course of the conversations. Obviously, it is' essential that you should have the procés-verbal sent to Rome as soon as possible, having signed it and included any amendments or additions you may wish to make. You are evidently entitled to send this document either directly to the Holy Father or to me. I should be grateful, furthermore, if you could let me know at what time you would like to resume contact with me. While awaiting your reply to this act of good will on the Holy Father's part, I ask you, Your Excellency, to accept my fraternal greetings. Franc. Card. Seper
25 April 1979
Letter of Mgr. Lefebvre to the Sovereign Pontiff
Most Holy Father, At the request of His Eminence Cardinal Seper, I send you together with this letter the questionnaire and corrected answers, a summing up of my conversations of 11-12 January with the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. In these few lines I should like to draw Your Holiness's attention to the extreme gravity of the situation affecting the faithful, and above all of young people, in the so-called Catholic countries of the free world. The majority of Catholics find themselves either without priests or directed by priests who no longer have the Catholic faith. Indeed, where priests are less than forty years old, and there are few of these, they have been badly trained in groups of formation that have a Modernist, Protestant, even Marxist spirit. If priests are older, they are using catechisms replete with errors, even heresies, and they use ecumenical Bibles to instruct their parishioners. The extent of the disaster is enormous. We rejoice at your insistence that the priest must be holy. But who will give him holiness if the seminaries have bad teachers? If the Church is to be renewed the priesthood must be renewed at all costs, and so, accordingly, must the seminaries. But true seminaries cannot be established without restoring the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass according to the spirit defined by the Council of Trent, and at the same time restoring the Sacraments and the entire Liturgy in this same spirit. Our own experience proves this conclusively, and would do so even more had we been encouraged rather than persecuted. Today our five seminaries could be ten or twenty, our 170 seminarians 1,000, if we had been granted even provisional approval. We could render a great service to the bishops by preparing true priests for them, as did St. John Eudes, St. Vincent de Paul and the Blessed Olier. 2In order to achieve this result it would only be necessary to declare a general approval, granted to our priests who are in demand everywhere, in all Catholic countries. Many are the members of the clergy who encourage us. Would it not be possible to grant us the statute which is already in force in prelatures nullius, such as the Canons of St. Maurice in Switzerland who have a bishop, Mgr. Salina, at their head, a statute which is also that of the Mission de France, of which the superior is also a bishop? My successor, elected according to the statutes of the Society, would receive consecration as a bishop. It is a very ancient custom in the Church, which as given proof of its value. I wish so much that you would ask His Eminence Cardinal Palazzini to be the Visitor to our houses, and to give you a report on them. Cardinal Siri and Cardinal Seper are very busy and could not take on this burden. Please believe, most Holy Father, that we have but one goal, to serve the Church, the Pope, and souls by forming holy priests for them, priests to be the salt of the earth and the light of the world. I beg Your Holiness to accept my respectful homage and my filial sentiments in Christo et Maria. Marcel Lefebvre 9 May 1979
Letter of Archbishop Lefebvre to Cardinal Seper
Your Eminence, Fully aware of what you told me yesterday, during the very fraternal meeting which you accorded me, concerning the procedural changes accepted by the Holy Father, I entrust to you with this letter the documents summarizing the discussions of II and 12 January, duly signed. You have asked me insistently what procedure I would like to see adopted to solve our problem: in brief, all that we are asking for is recognition of the legality which was ours for five years from 1970 to 1975, and to extend legal recognition to what we have continued since then, assuring us that we can retain in priestly formation and the apostolate the means which the Church has always used, particularly the liturgy, the catechism and the Vulgate in the form in which they were prescribed for use in the Latin Rite of the Roman Church for more that ten centuries. We are convinced that in a little while the Holy See will find amongst these young priests the most valuable helpers and firmest bulwarks of the Roman Church and the successor of Peter. I say in a little while, for they are still young! But they wish to be such at once. Allow me, Your Eminence, to express my deep respect and profound devotion in Christo et Maria. Marcel Lefebvre
1 June 1979
Letter of Cardinal Seper to Archbishop Lefebvre
Your Excellency, During the most recent audience which he granted me, the Holy Father, who has read with great attention the procés-verbal of the discussion last January, signed by you, instructed me to writes to you again. The Holy Father believes that a further meeting with Your Excellency on my part is indispensable to clarify certain points in this document, and he would like it to take place as soon as possible, preferably during the present month of June. For my part, I am available throughout the month except for the 13th, 29th and 30th. During the present phase, which has the object of reaching a definite solution, the Holy Father expects that on your part you should, more than ever, refrain from carrying out ordinations and suspend your pastoral activity. He counts on your discretion during the discussions. I should be grateful if you would let me know as soon as you can what date you would prefer for the discussion with me. Please permit me, Your Excellency, to express my devout and fraternal respect in the Lord. Franc. Card. Seper 9 June 1979
Letter to Archbishop Lefebvre to Cardinal Seper
Your Eminence, Your letter of I June reached me yesterday, that is 8 June, the eve of my departure to the U.S.A. for a fortnight. On my return the deacons will be in retreat prior to the ordinations of 29 June. Their parents and friends have already reserved all the hotels of the Valais, arranged for transportation, and sent out invitations both for the ordinations and the first Masses. It would have been necessary for you to ask me to do this when I alluded to such a possibility during the course of our conversations of 11 and 12 January, as I had already done for those of 2 February two years ago, without any result. I am very happy concerning what Your Eminence said to me on the subject of an eventual solution. I long for one with all my heart, and believe that I have proved the sincerity of this desire during the past five years by my willingness to accept all the interrogations, all the discussions, all the requests to go to Rome. And I will remain willing still. I am sorry that I cannot cancel my journey to the U.S.A., and I am at your disposal during the first fortnight of July. Your Eminence must be well aware of the fact that right till today I have not had the least idea of what this eventual solution could be. How could I penalize the seminarians and the faithful without being able to explain this solution to them? They all live in the hope that they will be permitted to enjoy the treasures of tradition, for it is there that they find for their faith and the Christian life. Their hearts are with me when I go to the Eternal City. But, alas, up to this point they have received no consolation from those who should bless and encourage them. Accordingly, I can visit Your Eminence on 4-5 or 11-12 July. I beg Your Eminence to excuse this delay, and in no way to consider my activities as constituting a sign of contumaciousness, but, rather, in the sad situation of the Church, as a contribution to its supernatural vitality, in the hope that this contribution will be blessed and encouraged without delay by the diocesan bishops. Allow me, Your Eminence, to express my respectful and brotherly sentiments in Jesus and Mary. Marcel Lefebvre 23 June 1979
Letter of Archbishop Lefebvre to Cardinal Seper
Your Eminence, Upon my return from the conversation which we had this morning I am, as I promised you, summing up the conclusions in the lines that follow. Insofar as the ordinations to the priesthood next Friday are concerned, it seems to me that from every point of view it is preferable for me to go through with them. Not to mention the deacons themselves, their families and their friends who have made all their arrangements for this ordination ceremony, it seems to me that a postponement would provoke in public opinion an expectation of a reciprocal gesture on the part of the Holy Father. This exception, which would be exploited by the press, would place the Holy Father in an invidious position, whether or not there was a delay. Any gesture in favor of tradition would be interpreted as a victory for Ecône, something for which I neither wish nor seek in any way. On the other hand, proceeding with the ordinations, even if interpreted unfavorably for Ecône, would have the advantage of allowing the Holy Father to act freely in favor of a broadening of the liturgy, without allowing anyone to draw conclusions as to an advantage obtained by Ecône. It is the entire Church which would be concerned, and would benefit, through this. While waiting, the problem of Ecône would stay out of the limelight. It could be resolved easily once the liturgical problem had been solved for the best (in this respect I will take the liberty of begging the Holy Father not to limit such freedom solely to the Liturgy of the Mass, but to extend it to the Liturgy of the Sacraments, above all that of orders). So as to assist towards this end I promise not to carry out any more confirmations and to postpone the October ordinations to the diaconate. I make bold, then, to hope that the faithful will have the satisfaction of being able to have the Sacraments of Baptism and Confirmation given according to the old rite, and to receive the Sacraments of Marriage, Extreme Unction, and Penance in the same fashion, and that clerics will be ordained according to the old rite, if they ask. Your Eminence, so happy am I at the thought that the Holy Father is preparing to issue this decree 3 that I should not be able to thank him enough, and to thank God and the Virgin Mary for inspiring him to take this salutary step. Allow me, Your Eminence, to express my respectful and cordially devout sentiments in Jesus and Mary. Marcel Lefebvre
1. i.e., that the Pope should study the procés-verbal personally and make his own judgment on it, see page 298.
2. Jean Jacques Olier (1608-57), founder of the Society and Seminary of St. Sulpice. The Society was not so much a religious congregation as a community of secular priests following a common life. Ordained priest in 1633, under the influence of St. Vincent de Paul, he took charge of the parish of Saint-Sulpice in Paris in 1642. It was in a degraded condition, but he evangelized it, establishing a seminary and catechetical center to educate the ignorant and combat Jansenism and Calvinism. He also founded homes for women, did much to relieve distress among the poor, and led a movement against duelling among the rich. (Note by Michael Davies.)
3. The Archbishop was referring to a document which Cardinal Seper had made known to him several times during their discussions. It would have removed any restrictions on priests using the liturgy as it was in 1969. More details of this decree are provided in a letter of the Archbishop to Cardinal Seper dated 15 December 1980. This letter will be available in Volume III.
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Post by Admin on Nov 24, 2019 10:53:47 GMT
Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre Volume 2, Chapter XXXIV
The 1979 Ordinations
29 June 1979
The 1979 ordination ceremonies at Ecône followed the pattern of previous years. Twenty-one new priests were ordained for the Society, and the Archbishop preached a sermon during which he answered the following questions: “Why Ecône?” “Why this seminary?” “Why the Priestly Society of Saint Pius X?” The Archbishop continued:
See these future priests, these seminarians, see all of these religious who are here, present from diverse congregations, of diverse nationalities. I should make allusion to our dear Carmelites who are most certainly united with us in heart but who are not able to come for they have the cloister and they desire to keep the cloister. They are with us and they pray for us; and all those religious who are absent and were not able to come today, but who are united in heart and prayer with us. All that is the Church. And you, dearest faithful, who are present, you represent also the Christian families – Catholic families – who defend their faith and do not want to allow themselves to be invaded by error, by heresy, by immorality, by the removal of faith in God and of Catholic morals. All this is a great testimony. Ecône – it is the faith of the Church. Ecône – it is the moral of the Church. Ecône forces itself to be the holiness of the Church and I will add, without fear, this term which in certain ears will create a certain emotion, that Ecône has the politics of the Church; for the Church has politics. The Church knows what Christian society is. The Church forged it; she formed it during the course of the centuries. During nearly twenty centuries the Church has inspired Christian Europe – Catholic Europe. She has directed it. She has directed all of society which was otherwise oriented. Its justice was other than that in which we live today because the Church has her principle – eternal principles –principles of her faith and her faith is nothing other than Our Lord Jesus Christ: the living Son of God, as St Peter expressed it, he who was worthy to be the founding Rock of the church, “Thou art Christ, the son of the living God.” Christ, the Son of the living God, has shown us that which it was necessary to do and in particular by His Cross, by His Priesthood, by His immolation on the Cross, by all of His Blood poured forth; He has shown us that to be the Son of God, to be Catholic, is to have the heart filled with charity, filled with love, and to be ready to give one’s life for others. Our Lord Jesus Christ has shown us this example and He shows it continually upon the altar. The altar is nothing other than the place of sacrifice; the altar of sacrifice where love immolates itself; the charity and that which manifests it, and which gives the grace to practice this charity from whence the utility of the priesthood. The Church is not able to put aside the priest because if there were no priest there would no longer be the Sacrifice of the Mass, there would no longer be the Sacrifice of the Cross. There would no longer be this source, this source of love, of charity which so remarkably expresses itself in the sacrifice of Our Lord. We see Him with His heart pierced, His head bowed, His hands and feet also pierced – all this by love for us. This is the sacrifice of the altar. Thus this magnificent example is a source of charity, a source of the Holy Ghost who “invades” us when we receive Holy Communion – the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ. There is then the lesson which the Church gives us, there is that which the Church thinks and there is what she has done through the course of the centuries. Thus Ecône continues. Ecône continues the Church with the same principles, with the same faith, with the same charity, with the same convictions and we are persuaded of this – filled with the same spirit of Our Lord Jesus Christ who has manifested Himself in all of the holiness of the Church through the course of the centuries. Why then this situation of Ecône? A situation which, let us hope, will soon be resolved for the greater good of the Church? It is that the citadel of Satan has established itself in opposition to the church, and today has high hopes of gaining a victory which appears imminent. All is organized. All is prepared to crush the Church, to make it disappear, to make the name of Our Lord disappear, to make the priesthood disappear, to make the Faith disappear. All is ready because for centuries Satan has prepared for it. He has prepared it in his secret meetings which have given as foundation of their legislation – opposed to the legislation of the Church, opposed to the legislation of love – the celebration of the Rights of Man in 1789 and 1948. They are identical, both, and they may be translated simply: the right to despise the rights of others, the right of charity, the right to no longer fulfill one’s duties, the right of force. There is this declaration and we see its deplorable results – physical force. The force of an army which invades a country as all the communist countries have been invaded; force of money which commands the world; force of political power which placed as the basis of governments – no longer the rules of charity; no longer the Decalogue; no longer the “Sermon on the Mount” which asks man to sacrifice himself for his neighbor, to give himself for his neighbor. No! Their principles are principles which destroy society, which destroy man and which are a continual scandal. We see today the atrocious effects of this, it must be said, humanity is seen as never before. That a mother may assassinate her child without being punished – and by the hundreds of thousands. By the million! That cries for vengeance! The blood of these innocents is a disgrace for our civilization and that because they have replaced the decalogue and Christian principles, the principles of the Church, by the “rights” of man. The rights of man – which as I have been saying to you, is the right to kill one’s neighbor, it is the right to despise one’s neighbor, it is the right to steal, it is the right to crush. Simply think of the dear Vietnamese who today perish in the sea, who perish of hunger. Why? In order to flee the hell of communism; in order to flee their dear country of Vietnam where they have been at home. They indeed had rights in their homeland. What are their rights now? Who defends their rights today? They no longer have the right to approach the land – the land which had been given to all men. They have simply the right to die at sea! And how many? How many have escaped upon fragile crafts and have perished in the sea? Think of the Cambodians massacred today in our age when one says that science has made marvelous things. This science, for what does it serve if not only to crush others more rapidly and more efficaciously. Let us be on our guard. Let us take heed of the messages of Fatima. It seems that they may be fulfilled, and we are likely to see them fulfilled if God gives us life to do so. The Blessed Mother clearly said that the end of the twentieth century, if man did not convert and return to the law of God, to the application of the law of God, would see terrible chastisements. She said this in 1917 at a time when no one would yet have been able to think of atomic bombs, but she said that water would be transformed into vapors and fire would descend from heaven and that those who will be living will wish to die before the atrocities that they will see! This is what awaits us with these principles of the rights of man. This is what awaits us with this contempt of neighbor, this contempt of God and when one considers that this is done by Catholics – by those who have been baptized and call themselves Catholics and who are chiefs of state – it is a scandal! We must pray, my dear brethren, that the Holy Ghost will enlighten them. This citadel of Satan which has been raised against the citadel of God has caused, unfortunately, many Catholics to lose their faith. Many of them have believed it necessary to ally themselves to the force, with powers to those who have money and thus they have made compromises. It is these that one calls liberal Catholics, condemned by Pope Pius IX, condemned by Pope Leo XIII, condemned by Saint Pius X. all these Catholics who have come to terms with the enemy and those who play the game of the enemy – it is these who have penetrated in Rome and it is these who have inspired the Second Vatican Council and all of its consequences. Thus we are in complete confusion. Instead of teaching the good and true catechism they teach anything. They place in doubt all the truths of the Church. Instead of teaching the morals of the Church they place all in doubt and permit all “experiences.” Rather than teaching the faith of the Church they “research” and they place all the principles of the church in doubt. Thus our Church is infiltrated. It is in the process of “auto-destruction,” as Pope Paul VI said. We must then resist. We must hold fast. We must continue the Church. It is not possible that the good Lord will not aid us and He does so. How is it possible that in the space of ten to fifteen years so many priests, so many religious, have understood that it was necessary to resist, that it is necessary to maintain our faith at all costs in spite of the persecutions, in spite of the difficulties, in spite of the trials. The Lord one day will permit, we have no doubt, that we will be recognized; not only recognized, but thanked, for having defended the Tradition of the church, thanked for having made priests who are true priests and who have profound convictions, and who have as a program for their life the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and who want to put this into practice. There is the salvation of our civilization! There is the salvation of souls! There is the Church! I then wholeheartedly congratulate you, my dear brethren, for having come to encourage our young Levites who indeed will have difficulties to conquer in the exercise of their ministry; difficulties of all sorts due precisely to the general confusion in which we live, due to this satanic organization which seeks to destroy the Church. But you will help them by your prayers and you will help them by all of your means. You will return to your homes everywhere, determined to maintain your Catholic faith, and especially that of your children. Protect that of your children in order that afterwards generations will rise, Catholic generations, who will remake a Christian society, and who will restore justice, love and peace in the states, in civilization and in all nations. That is what we ask the good Lord today. Let us pray to the Holy Ghost, today, who is certainly among us in a very special way. Let us pray to the Holy Ghost to give the Pope force and courage to conquer all of the opposition which surrounds him, in order that he accomplish a veritable renovation of the Church upon the eternal principles, upon the eternal sacrifice, upon the eternal sacraments. Let us ask the Holy Ghost today for our Holy Father the Pope who needs this succor in order to take the necessary courageous measures to "re-give" the Church her faith, her morals, and her Christian civilization so that souls may be saved. We ask this particularly of the Blessed Virgin Mary, she who is certainly very close to us today, who rejoices in this assembly, who rejoices in these young deacons who are going to become priests, sons of Mary. For if there is anyone who here on earth understood the program of the Cross it is indeed the Blessed Virgin Mary who assisted at the agony of Our Lord and who understood the admirable mystery of the love of Jesus for us. Let us also ask the Blessed Virgin Mary to come in aid and support the Pope in an action of renovation in the Church. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
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Post by Admin on Nov 25, 2019 10:34:29 GMT
Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre Volume 2, Chapter XXXV
A Pilgrimage to Saint Mary's
August 1979
As the Society of St. Pius X has grown it has come to acquire properties in many countries - schools, churches, and residences – to be transformed into priories. There can be no doubt whatsoever that the most important acquisition to date is the former Jesuit Seminary at St. Mary’s, Kansas, in America. This seminary was one of the great centers of Catholicism in America. It had been sold by the Jesuits to a property company, and, as has been the case with hundreds of similar properties, it appeared lost to the Church for ever. St. Mary’s was to be sold to the highest bidder, and it was far from impossible that it would have fallen into the hands of a Protestant sect. But it was acquired by the Society in June, 1978, in an almost miraculous fashion, and at a very modest price agreed to by the board of the property company, so that the college could keep its Catholic character. A high proportion of the board members were Catholics. The College consists of twenty-seven acres of land on which there are thirteen buildings – lecture halls, gymnasiums, halls of residence, an infirmary, and the Immaculata Chapel, one of the most beautiful in America. Unfortunately the chapel was almost destroyed in a disastrous fire, but will eventually be restored to its former glory. By the time the Society had acquired St. Mary's College some of the buildings were in a very dilapidated state, and the grounds were overgrown. But volunteers arrived from all over the U.S.A., and amazing transformation took place. A Pilgrimage was organized by The Angelus Press for 13-16 August 1979, led by Archbishop Lefebvre. At a banquet held in honor of the Archbishop, Michael Davies remarked that St. Mary's could be seen as a sign of hope for the entire Church. He noted that all those present at the banquet had enjoyed the privilege of participating in a Pontifical High Mass for the Feast of the Assumption. (There had been Pontifical Vespers the day before.) This had been the Tridentine Mass, the rite used in the College from the day of its foundation, which dated back to an Indian Mission opened in 1827. The College was being used for the purpose for which it had been founded, Catholic education, and sound Catholic literature was being sold there once more. Anyone who suggested that the Church might rise triumphantly once more from the rubble of the post-conciliar revolution would be looked upon as crazy by most Catholics today, but anyone who had predicted the transformation which had taken place in Saint Mary's would also have been considered crazy a year before. Here was a rare example of genuine renewal taking place in the post-conciliar Church, a renewal in the true sense of the word – something that had been abandoned had been restored and renewed. A Newspaper ReportThe September 1979 issue of The Angelus reprinted a report of the Pilgrimage which had appeared in The St. Mary's Star. The following extract gives a very good indication of the spirit which pervaded it: The Archbishop’s SermonThe sermon preached by Archbishop Lefebvre on the Feast of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, 15 August 1979, at St. Mary’s College, Kansas, during the Angelus Press Pilgrimage:My dear brethren: When I came to St. Mary's College for the first time two years ago, I was amazed and stupefied by the magnificence of the chapel, of the chapel dedicated to the Immaculate Conception. And when those who were showing me around this magnificent chapel told me that it was a shrine venerated throughout America, and particularly in this area, I thought at once that, if God permitted us to have this property, and especially this chapel, we would make of it a center of pilgrimage, a center of devotion to the Most Blessed Virgin Mary for all America. People come from the North, from the South, from the East, from the West, to this center which lies in the geographical center of America, so as to manifest their devotion to the Most Blessed Virgin Mary, and to discover at her feet the line of conduct to follow in this terrible period that the Church is passing through today. And already I was promising Father Bolduc that I would come for the Feast of August 15, to meet all those who desired to come to pray at the feet of the Most Blessed Virgin, and to encourage them to preserve the Catholic Faith in union with the Virgin Mary. But, by the decision of Providence, the chapel caught fire. This was a great trial for us. It was indeed a disaster. Our hearts were in anguish. But since God had decided thus, we still thought that we should maintain this date for the pilgrimage and that, since it had become necessary, we would reconstruct the chapel. And what we did just a little while ago – the blessing of the cornerstone – is proof that you are determined to rebuild the chapel for the glory of the Most Blessed Virgin. I am convinced that all of you will help to make this shrine as beautiful, if not more beautiful, than that which was there before. And I am happy to see that you have come – despite the destruction, you have come from all parts of America. In a few words I would like to show you how much the Most Blessed Virgin Mary, in this painful crisis that the Church is going through, should be our guide and our model. With her we are certain not to go astray. We shall look to her, we shall ask her what she did during the course of her life, what she has to teach us, and we shall see that the Most Blessed Virgin Mary teaches us just what the Church has taught us ever since, in the course of twenty centuries. The first element that concerns the Most Blessed Virgin Mary, and that announces her, is found in the protogospel, in Genesis, where already Mary is presented as a queen going forth to battle, as the queen of hosts, queen of armies, who gathers about herself all the forces of God, all the graces of God, and this to fight. To fight whom? To fight what? To fight the devil? It is God Himself who announces this to the devil: "I shall place between thee – the devil, Satan – and the Virgin Mary an enmity.” So the Virgin has an enemy. And not only an enmity between the Virgin Mary and Satan, but an enmity between the progeny of Satan and the progeny of Mary; between the world, between everything represented by those of Satan, by those who are the children of Satan, by those who struggle against God, who detest God and the Son of Mary, Our Lord Jesus Christ, and all those who will be the children of the Virgin Mary. There are then, by the will of God, two armies in the world: an army of the children of the Virgin Mary, and an army of the children of Satan. And between them, God has placed an enmity, an enmity that will last until the end of time, until the end of the world. Consequently, the Virgin Mary, already, before being born, promised by God, draws us into a combat, into her combat, into the combat which will lead her to victory. A combat, however, which, alas, will often be waged in painful, in difficult, and in trying periods. But if we follow the Virgin Mary we are sure with her to achieve victory. This victory that the Virgin Mary desires is a victory against Satan and, consequently, against sin. The Virgin Mary is the symbol of those who do not want to be sin, who do not want to disobey God. This is the battle that the Virgin Mary is going to wage through the ages. So it is a great lesson that God gives us in announcing the birth of His Mother, in announcing that we shall have a Mother, a heavenly Mother, a Mother who will do battle. So we shall do battle together with her and we must do battle against the common enemy – Satan, and all those who with Satan are against God. Perhaps you have observed nowadays in modern ecclesiastical literature that they no longer want to talk about the enemies of the Church, they no longer want to talk about the enemies of God, the enemies of Our Lord Jesus Christ. They would like these enemies to become brothers. Instead of combatting sin in them, the sin that removes them from God, by loving them, by seeking to convert them, it now seems that those who believe in the Virgin Mary, and are the children of the Virgin Mary, and those who are not children of the Virgin Mary, are all brothers. Well, this is not true. We must strive to bring them to become children of Mary, but we cannot recognize them as children of God if they are not children of Mary. The second lesson that the Most Blessed Virgin Mary gives us, when she was visited by the Angel Gabriel, is her faith. The first fact noted for us in the Gospel on the occasion of the Annunciation, is the faith of Mary. And her cousin Elizabeth congratulates her: " Beata quae credidisti – blessed art thou who hast believed." Yes, the Most Blessed Virgin Mary believed. She believed in whom, in what? She believed that the Son who was to be born of her was the Son of God; she believed in the Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ; she believed in the Divinity of her divine Son. This is the great lesson that the Most Blessed Virgin Mary gives us. Henceforth, she lives only for the Reign of her Son, for the glory of her Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ. In the greatest humility – she says, herself, that she was chosen because of her humility. Saint Elizabeth did not hesitate to praise her precisely for this: “Blessed art thou, O Mary, because thou hast believed." This should also be our own first conviction: We must believe: we must believe that Our Lord Jesus Christ is the Son of God, must believe all our Credo, the whole faith that the Most Blessed Virgin had transmitted, that the Most Blessed Virgin manifested to the Apostles and that the Apostles transmitted. We must keep this faith intact. Let us ask the Blessed Virgin to have faith like hers – to have faith as deep, as firm, as courageous as that of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary. The third event in the life of the Virgin Mary that shows us how we should behave is what took place at the wedding feast of Cana. You remember that they ran out of wine during the wedding feast. The servant came to tell Mary that there was no more wine. And what did Mary tell the servant? “Do all that He tells you.” This is the Gospel of Mary. All is summarized in this phrase: “Do what Jesus tells you." Many addresses these words to us as well, not only to the servant of Cana. At the very beginning of the period of evangelization of Our Lord, the Most Blessed Virgin is already speaking to us, is already speaking to those who will be the disciples of Our Lord. And when we appeal to the Most Blessed Virgin Mary to ask her what we should do in the difficult circumstance of our lives, the Most Blessed Virgin Mary will answer us, just as she answered the servants at the wedding feast of Cana: "Do all that He tells you. Do the will of Our Lord. Observe the commandments of Our Lord Jesus Christ. If you do the will of Our Lord, if you do the will of my divine Son, then you will be saved. Then your soul, which is perhaps like water, will be changed into wine, a generous wine. Your soul will be filled with the grace of the Lord. Your soul will be filled with all that is necessary for you to fulfill the commandments of God.” This is the third lesson that our heavenly Mother gives us. The fourth lesson that the Most Blessed Virgin Mary gives us is her presence on Calvary. Her presence on Calvary where she is not the priest who offers the sacrifice - the priest who offers the sacrifice is Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, but the Most Blessed Virgin Mary is there, present. The apostles are absent; only St. John is with her. By this presence on Calvary, the Virgin Mary shows us the importance of the Sacrifice of Calvary, and, consequently, the importance of the Sacrifice of the Mass. She is the Mother of Priests. She is the Mother of all the faithful. And by "this presence, standing before her divine Son Who is covered with blood, Whose blood was poured forth for our sins, the Most Blessed Virgin Mary shows Him to us, and says to us: "See the love He has for you: my divine Son has given all His blood that I myself gave Him in my womb, this blood that is now all over His body. His heart is open. His head is pierced with thorns. His hands are pierced; His feet pierced - all that by love of you." And this will continue until the end of time through the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Thus the Most Blessed Virgin Mary teaches us the great mystery of the love of Our Lord Jesus Christ, realized in the Sacrifice of Calvary, in the Sacrifice of the Mass, and in the Holy Eucharist. For the Sacrifice of the Mass also gives us the Eucharist; this Flesh and Blood of the Victim that we must eat and drink to obtain eternal life. It is Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself Who said so: "If you do not eat my flesh and drink my blood, you will not have eternal life." So Our Lord Jesus Christ accomplished this unimaginable, the incredible miracle of really giving us His Body and His Blood to eat and drink. This is what the great love of Our Lord Jesus Christ accomplished, and this is the lesson that the Virgin Mary gives us by her presence at the feet of her divine Son on Calvary. Finally, the last lesson that the Most Blessed Virgin Mary gives us is that of her presence in the midst of the apostles the day of Pentecost. It is through her that the graces will be given to the apostles and that the Holy Ghost will descend upon the apostles. The Church teaches us so. The apostles were sanctified on that day by the Holy Ghost through the intercession of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary, through the mediation of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary. She no longer needed to receive the Holy Ghost. She was filled with the Holy Ghost. The Angel Gabriel told her so: “Thou art filled with the Holy Ghost." She no longer needed to receive Him. But if she was present, it is because she wanted to communicate the Holy Ghost to the apostles, and because Our Lord wanted Him to be communicated to them through her – to them and, consequently, to the Church. There she truly became the Mother of the Church, because it was she who by her mediation gave the Holy Ghost to the apostles. So the Blessed Virgin Mary teaches us to love the Church, to love the Holy Ghost - the Holy Ghost, who is given to us by all the Sacraments instituted by Our Lord, and especially by the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and by the Eucharist. This is what the Most Blessed Virgin Mary teaches us. Therefore we must be attached to the Church, and it is because we are attached to the Church that we defend our holy Mother the Church. The Roman Catholic Church is our mother. And it is because we are the devoted sons of the Church, because we love Rome, because we love all those who truly represent the Holy Catholic Church, that we defend our faith, that we defend what the Virgin Mary has given us. We do not want them to change our Church. We want no other Church. We want the Roman Catholic Church, that which the Most Blessed Virgin Mary communicated to the apostles in the Holy Ghost. This is the Church that we want. This is the Church that we love – the Church of the Mother of Jesus, the Church of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary, the Church of the Immaculate Conception, the Church of Our Assumption. This is the Church that we want! This is the Church that we venerate, the Church to which we wish forever to remain subject. So we beg those who have posts of authority in the Church not to change our Church, to remain faithful to the Church of Mary, to remain faithful to the Most Blessed Virgin Mary, to all the lessons that the Most Blessed Virgin Mary has given us. And I beg you, my dear brethren, to be the leaven – the leaven of the Catholic Church, of this love for the Catholic Church, in all your regions, in all your families, in all your homes. Remain children of Mary. Pray to the Most Blessed Virgin Mary. Meditate on the lessons that the Most Blessed Virgin Mary gives you. Then you will be true Catholics. You cannot be children of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary, in a full and holy manner, without being the best children of the Catholic Church. This is what reassures us that we are indeed true sons of the Catholic Church. So I am convinced that when you return home you will be true representatives of the Catholic Church, and that you will do all you can so that she continues, despite the difficulties, despite the trials, despite the contradictions. We must all pray together today for you to be witnesses. Just as the apostles received the Holy Ghost through the Virgin Mary, and went forth to give witness to the Gospel throughout the world, so you also must be the witnesses of the Virgin Mary, of the Holy Ghost that you have received through her, and give witness to your faith in God, of your faith in Our Lord Jesus Christ, of your love for the Church, wherever you may be. This is what God desires. You are the Church! You are the Catholic Church! So let us remain in this Church of the Virgin Mary. Let us confide in her. Let us confide to her our families, especially our children, who so need the help of the Virgin Mary to remain in the true Catholic Faith. I congratulate you with all my heart for preserving this Faith. I also congratulate you with all my heart to see that you have so many children. We observe that half of the assembly here is composed of persons less than twenty years old. This is a sign, a sign of your fidelity to the Catholic Church, a sign of your fidelity to the commandments of God, and I congratulate you. I am sure that God's blessings are upon you. I hope that next year, or perhaps in two years, I do not know, if, of course, God gives me life, that I shall be able again, with you, to say Mass, no longer here, but in our beautiful basilica which will be rebuilt, by the grace of God. And we shall be able to sing the praises of the Virgin Mary, as we are doing today, but perhaps with still greater beauty and a still greater number of pilgrims. May God bless you. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
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Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre Volume 2, Chapter XXXVI
The Golden Jubilee
23 September 1979
The fiftieth anniversary of Archbishop Lefebvre's ordination to the priesthood provided the occasion for probably the most striking manifestation of the strength of traditionalist feeling to have occurred since the Second Vatican Council; it also indicated the high degree of respect and personal affection felt for the Archbishop by Catholics who are faithful to tradition. A Pontifical High Mass was celebrated in a huge exhibition hall, which proved to be a prudent decision as between twenty and twenty-five thousand people were present. It is not exaggerating to claim that had all the French Bishops hired a hall of the same size, and appealed to their supporters to be present to show solidarity with the hierarchy in its vendetta against the Archbishop, they would have been lucky to find it a quarter full. The size of this congregation, far larger than that at Lille in August 1976, showed the extent to which support for Mgr. Lefebvre was growing, despite the campaign waged against him in all the Catholic media, and the threats of excommunication which had been circulated from time to time. Le Figaro, a leading French daily paper, has never been sympathetic to the Archbishop, but its report on the Jubi1ee gave an accurate impression of the ceremony. The report appeared in the 24 September 1979 issue, and was introduced with the following headline: Homage to the ArchbishopThe following words were addressed by Father Paul Aulagnier, Superior of the District of France, Society of St. Pius X, to His grace on the occasion of his sacerdotal jubilee in Paris, during the banquet which followed the Mass:
The Sermon of His Grace The Most Reverend Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre On the Occasion of His Sacerdotal Jubilee 23 September 1979 Paris, France
In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. My dear brethren, Allow me, before beginning the few words I would like to address to you on the occasion of this beautiful ceremony, to thank all of those who have contributed to its magnificent success. Personally, I had thought of celebrating my sacerdotal jubilee in a private, discreet manner at the altar which is the heart of Ecône, but the beloved clergy of St. Nicholas du Chardonnet, and the beloved priests who surround me, invited me with such insistence to permit all those who desired to unite themselves in thanksgiving and my prayer on the occasion of this sacerdotal jubilee, that I could not refuse and that is why we are gathered here today – so great in number, so diverse in origin – having come from America, from all the European countries, which are yet free, and here we are united for the occasion of this sacerdotal jubilee. How then could I define this gathering, this manifestation, this ceremony? A homage, a homage to your faith in the Catholic priesthood and in the Holy Catholic Mass. I truly believe that it is for this reason that you have come, in order to manifest your attachment to the Catholic Church and to the most beautiful treasure, to the most sublime gift which God has given to man: the priesthood – and the priesthood for sacrifice, for the Sacrifice of Our Lord, continued upon our altars. This is why you have come, this is why we are surrounded today by these beloved priests who have come from everywhere and many more would have come were it not a Sunday, for they are held by their obligations to celebrate Holy Mass in their parishes – and they have told us so. I would like to trace, if you will permit me, some scenes of which I have been a witness during the course of this half century, in order to show more clearly the importance which the Mass of the Catholic Church holds in our life, in the life of priest, in the life of a bishop, and in the life of the Church. As a young seminarian at Santa Chiara, at the French Seminary in Rome, they used to teach us attachment to liturgical ceremonies. I had, during that time, the privilege of being a ceremoniare, that which we call "a master of ceremonies," having been preceded in this office by no less than His Grace Msgr. Lebrun, the former Bishop of Autun, and by His Grace Monseigneur Ancel, who is still the Auxiliary Bishop of Lyon. I was, therefore, a master of ceremonies under the direction of the beloved Father Haegy, known for his profound knowledge of the liturgy. We loved to prepare the altar, we loved to prepare the ceremonies, and we were already imbued with the spirit of the feast the eve of the day when a great ceremony was to take place upon our altars. We understood therefore, as young seminarians, how to love the altar. " Domine dilexi decorem domus tuae et gloriam habitationis tuae." This is the verse which we recite during the Lavabo at the altar – “Lord, I have loved the splendor of Thy house and the glory of Thy dwelling.” This is what they taught us at the French Seminary in Rome under the direction of the dear and Reverend Father Le Floch, a well-loved father, who taught us to see clearly in the events of the time through his commentaries on the encyclicals of the Popes. I was ordained a priest in the Chapel of the Sacred Heart de la rue Royale in Lille, the 21st day of September 1929 by the then Archbishop Lienart. I left shortly afterwards – two years afterwards – for the missions to join my brother who was already there in Gabon and there I began to learn what the Mass truly is. Certainly I knew, by the studies which we had done, what this great mystery of our Faith was, but I had not yet understood its entire value, efficacy and depth. Thus I lived day by day, year by year, in Africa and particularly at Gabon, where I spent thirteen years of my missionary life, first at the seminary and then in the bush among the Africans, with the natives. There I saw – yes, I saw – what the grace of the Holy Mass could do. I saw it in the holy souls of some of our catechists. I saw it in those pagan souls transformed by assistance at Holy Mass, and by the Holy Eucharist. These souls understood the mystery of the Sacrifice of the Cross and united themselves to Our Lord Jesus Christ in the sufferings of His Cross, offering their sacrifices and their sufferings with Our Lord Jesus Christ and living as Christians. I can cite names: Paul Qssima de Ndjole, Eugene Ndonc de Lambrene, Marcel Mable de Donquila, and I will continue with a name from Senegal, Monsieur Forster, Treasurer-Paymaster in Senegal – chosen for this delicate and important function by his peers and even by the Moslems, due to his honesty and integrity. These are some of the men produced by the grace of the Mass. They assisted at the Mass daily, communicating with great fervor and they have become models and light to those about them. This is just to list a few without counting the many Christians transformed by this grace. I was able to see these pagan villages become Christian – being transformed not only, I would say, spiritually and supernaturally, but also being transformed physically, socially, economically and politically; because these people, pagans which they were, became cognizant of the necessity of fulfilling their duties, in spite of the trials, in spite of the sacrifice; of maintaining their commitments, and particularly their commitment in marriage. Then the village began to be transformed, little by little, under the influence of grace, under the influence of the grace of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, and soon all the villages were wanting to have one of the Fathers visit them. Oh, the visit of a missionary! They wait patiently to assist at the Holy Mass, in order to be able to confess their sins and then to receive Holy Communion. Some of these souls also consecrated themselves to God: nuns, priests, brothers giving themselves to God, consecrating themselves to God. There you have the fruit of the Holy Mass. Why did all this happen? It is necessary that we study somewhat the profound motives of this transformation: SACRIFICE! The notion of sacrifice is a profoundly Christian and a profoundly Catholic notion. Our life cannot be spent without sacrifice since Our Lord Jesus Christ, God Himself, willed to take a body like our own and say to us: "Follow Me, take up thy cross, and follow Me, if thou wilt be saved." And He has given us the example of His death upon the cross; He has shed His blood. Would we then dare, we, His miserable creatures, sinners that we are, not to follow Our Lord in pursuit of His Sacrifice, in pursuit of His Cross? There is the entire mystery of Christian civilization. There is that which is the root of Christian civilization: the comprehension of sacrifice in one's life, in daily life, the understanding of Christian suffering – no longer considering suffering as an evil, as an unbearable sorrow, but sharing one's suffering and one's sickness with the sufferings of Our Lord Jesus Christ, in looking upon His Cross, in assisting at the Holy Mass, which is the continuation of the Passion of Our Lord upon Calvary. Once understood, suffering becomes a joy, and a treasure because these sufferings, if united to those of Our Lord, if united to those of all the martyrs, if united to those of all the saints, of all Catholics, of all the faithful who suffer in this world, if united to the Cross of Our Lord, they then become an inexpressible treasure, a treasure unutterable, and achieve an extraordinary capacity for the conversion of other souls and the salvation of our own. Many holy souls, Christians, have even desired to suffer in order to unite themselves more closely to the Cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ. There you have Christian civilization. Blessed are those who suffer for righteousness' sake. Blessed are the poor. Blessed are the meek. Blessed are the merciful. Blessed are the peace-makers. These are the teachings of the Cross: it is this that Our Lord Jesus Christ teaches us by His Cross. This Christian civilization, penetrating to the depths of nations only recently pagan, has transformed them, and impelled them to desire and thus to choose Catholic heads of state. I, myself, have known and aided the leaders of these Catholic countries. Their Catholic peoples desired to have Catholic leaders so that even their governments and all the laws of their land might be submissive to the laws of Our Lord Jesus Christ and to the Ten Commandments. If, in the past, France – said to be Catholic – had truly fulfilled the role of a Catholic power, she would have supported these colonized lands in their new-found Faith. Had she done so, their lands would not now be menaced by Communism, and Africa would not be what it is today. The fault does not so much lie with the Africans themselves as with the colonial powers, which did not understand how to avail themselves of this Christian Faith which had rooted itself among the African peoples. With a proper understanding they would have been able to exercise a brotherly influence among these nations by helping them to keep the Faith and exclude communism. If we look back through history, we see immediately that what I have been speaking of took place in our own countries in the first centuries after Constantine. For we, too, are in our origins, converts. Our ancestors were converted, our kings were converted, and down through the centuries they offered their nations to Our Lord Jesus Christ and they submitted their countries to the Cross of Jesus. They willed, too, that Mary should be the Queen of their lands. One can read the admirable writings of St. Edward, King of England, St. Louis, King of France, of the Holy Roman Emperor St. Henry, of St. Elizabeth of Hungary, and of all the saints who were at the head of our Catholic nations and who thus helped to make Christianity. What faith they had in the Holy Mass! King St. Louis of France served two Masses every day. If he was travelling and happened to hear church bells ringing to announce the Consecration, he would dismount to adore on bended knee the miracle being performed at that moment. There, indeed, was Catholic civilization! How far from such faith we are now, how far indeed! There is another event which we are bound to mention after these pictures of Christian civilization in Africa and in our history, that of France particularly. A recent event – an event in the life of the Church, and an important event: the Second Vatican Council. We are obliged to declare that the enemies of the Church know very well, perhaps better than we, what the value of just one Mass is. There was a poem written on this subject in which one finds words attributed to Satan, showing how he trembles each time a Mass, a true Catholic Mass, is celebrated because he is thus reminded of the memory of the Cross, and he knows well that it was by the Cross that he was vanquished. The enemies of the Church who perform sacrilegious masses in the well-known sects, and the communists, too, know what value is to be had from one Mass, one true Catholic Mass! I was recently told that in Poland the Communist Party, through their "Inspectors of Religion," keep under surveillance those priests in Poland who say the Old Mass but leave alone those who say the New. They persecute those who say the Old Mass, the Mass of All Time. A foreign priest visiting Poland may say what Mass he pleases, in order to give the impression of freedom, but the Polish priests who decide to hold firm to Tradition are persecuted. I read recently a document about the PAX movement which was communicated to us in June of 1963, in the name of Cardinal Wyszynski. This document told us: "You think we have freedom, you are made to think that we have it, and it is the priests affiliated with PAX, who are friends of the communist government, who spread these ideas abroad because they are propagandists for the government, as is even the progressive French press. But it is not true, we are not free.” Cardinal Wyszynski gave precise details. He said that in the youth camps organized by the communists the children were kept behind barbed wire on Sundays to keep them from going to Mass. He told, too, how vacation hide-aways organized by the Catholic priests were surveyed from helicopters to see if the youth were going to Mass. Why? Why this need to spy upon children on their way to Mass? Because they know that the Mass is absolutely anti-communist and, how indeed, could it be otherwise? For what is communism, if not “all for the Party and all for the Revolution"? The Mass, on the other hand, is “all for God.” Not at all the same thing is it? All for God! This is the Catholic Mass, opposed as it is to the program of parties, which is a Satanic program. These are the profound reasons behind the Mass, the Sacrifice. You know well that we are all tested, that we are all beset with difficulties in our lives, in our earthly existence. We all have the need to know why we suffer, why these trials and sorrows, why these Catholics, these people, are lying sick in their bed. The hospitals are full of sick people. Why? The Christian responds: to unite my sufferings to those of Our Lord on the altar, to unite them on the altar and through that act to participate in the work of redemption, to merit for myself and for other souls the joy of heaven. Now it was during the Council that the enemies of the Church infiltrated her, and their first objective was to demolish and destroy the Mass insofar as they could. You can read the books of Michael Davies, an English Catholic, who has written magnificent works, which demonstrate how the liturgical reform of Vatican II closely resembles that produced under Cranmer at the birth of English Protestantism. If one reads the history of that liturgical transformation, made also by Luther, one sees that now it is exactly the same procedure which is being slowly followed, and under appearances still apparently good and Catholic. But it is just that character of the Mass which is sacrificial and redemptive of sin through the Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, which they have removed. They have made of the Mass a simple assembly, one among others, merely presided over by the priest and that is not the Mass! So it is not surprising that the Cross no longer triumphs, because the sacrifice no longer triumphs. It is not surprising that men think no longer of anything but raising their standard of living, that they seek only money, riches, pleasures, comfort, and the easy ways of this world. They have lost the sense of sacrifice. What does it remain for us to do, my dear brethren, if in this manner we deepen our understanding of the great mystery which is the Mass? Well! I think I can say that we should have a crusade! A crusade supported by the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, by the Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, by that invincible rock, that inexhaustible source of grace which is the Mass. This we see every day. You are there because you love the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. And these young seminarians who are in the seminary – in Ecône, the United States and Germany – why do they come into our seminaries? For the Holy Mass, for the Holy Mass of All Time, which is the source of grace, the source of the Holy Ghost, the source of Christian civilization, that is the reason for the priest. It is necessary that we undertake a crusade, a crusade which is based precisely upon these notions of immutability, of sacrifice, in order to recreate Christianity, to re-establish a Christendom such as the Church desired, such as she has always done, with the same principles, the same Sacrifice of the Mass, the same sacraments, the same catechism, the same Holy Scripture. We must recreate this Christendom! It is to you, my dear brethren, you who are the salt of the earth and the light of the world, that Our Lord Jesus Christ addressed Himself in saying: "Do not lose the fruit of My blood, do not abandon My Calvary, do not abandon My Sacrifice." And the Virgin Mary who stands beneath the Cross, tells you the same thing as well; She, whose heart is pierced, full of sufferings and sorrow, yet at the same time filled with the joy of uniting herself to the Sacrifice of her Divine Son, she says it to you as well: "let us be Christians, let us be Catholics!" Let us not be borne away by all these worldly ideas, by all these currents of thought which are in the world, and which draw us to sin and to hell. If we want to go to heaven we must follow Our Lord Jesus Christ, we must carry our cross and follow Our Lord Jesus Christ, imitating Him in His Cross, in His suffering, in His Sacrifice. Thus, I ask the youth, the young people who are here in this hall, to ask the priests to explain to them these things that are so beautiful and so great, so as to choose their vocations, whatever be the calling that they may elect – be they priests or religious men and women, or married: married by the Sacrament of Marriage, and, therefore, in the Cross of Jesus Christ, and in the Blood of Jesus Christ, married in the grace of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Let them comprehend the greatness of Matrimony, and let them prepare themselves worthily for it by purity and chastity, by prayer and reflection. Let them not be carried away by all the passions which engulf the world. Thus, let this be the crusade of the young who must aspire to the true ideal. Let it be, as well, a crusade for Christian families. You Christian families who are here, consecrate yourselves to the Heart of Jesus, to the Eucharistic Heart of Jesus, and to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Oh, pray together in the family! I know that many of those among you already do so, but may there always be more and more of you who do so with fervor! Let Our Lord truly reign in your homes! Cast away, I beg you, anything which impedes children from entering your family! There is no greater gift that the Good God can bestow upon your hearths than to have many children. Have big families, it is the glory of the Catholic Church, the large family! It has been so in Canada, it has been so in Holland, it has been so in Switzerland, it has been so in France – everywhere the large family was the joy and prosperity of the Church. There are that many more chosen souls for heaven! Therefore, do not limit, I beg you, the gifts of God; do not listen to these abominable slogans which destroy the family, which ruin health, which ruin the household and which provoke divorce. And I wish that, in these troubled times, in this degenerate urban atmosphere in which we are living, that you return to the land whenever possible. The land is healthy, the land teaches one to know God, the land draws one to God, it calms temperaments, characters, and encourages the children to work. And if it is necessary, yes, you yourselves will make the school for your children! If the schools should corrupt your children, what are you going to do? Deliver them to the corrupters? To those who teach these abominable sexual practices in schools? To the so-called "Catholic" schools run by religious men and women, where they simply teach sin? In reality, that is what they are teaching to the children, they corrupt them from their tenderest youth! Are you to put up with that? It is inconceivable! Rather that your children be poor, rather that they be removed from this apparent science that the world possesses, but that they be good children, Christian children, Catholic children, children who love to pray and who love to work, children who love the earth which the good God has made. Finally, a crusade as well for the heads of the family. You who are head of your household, you have a grave responsibility in your countries. You do not have the right to let your country be invaded by socialism and communism! You do not have the right, or else you are no longer Catholic! You must fight at the time of elections in order that you may have Catholic mayors, Catholic deputies, so that France finally may become Catholic again. That is not mere politics, that is to wage a good campaign, a campaign such as waged the saints, such as waged the Popes who opposed Attila, such as waged St. Remi who converted Clovis, such as waged Joan of Arc who saved France from Protestantism: If Joan of Arc had not been raised up in France, we would all be Protestants! It was in order to keep France Catholic that Our Lord raised up Joan of Arc, that child of 17, maybe 18 years old, who drove the English out of France. That, too, is waging a political campaign. Surely, then, this is the sort of politics which we desire, the politics of the Royalty of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Just a few moments ago you were heard to chant, “ Christus vincit, Christus regnat, Christus imperat.” Are these but words, mere lyrics, mere chants? No! It is necessary that they be a reality. You heads of families, you are the ones responsible for such realization, both for your children and for the generations which are to come. Thus, you should organize yourselves now – conduct meetings and make yourselves heard, with the object that France become once again Christian, once again Catholic. It is not impossible – otherwise one would have to say that the grace of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is no longer grace, that God is no longer God, that Our Lord Jesus Christ is no longer Our Lord Jesus Christ! One must have confidence in the grace of Our Lord. Our Lord Who is all-powerful. I have seen this grace at work in Africa – there is no reason why it will not work as well here in these countries. This is the message that I wanted to tell you today. And you, dear priests, who hear me now, you too must make a profound sacerdotal union to spread this crusade, to animate this crusade in order that Jesus reign, that Our Lord reign. And to do that you must be holy, you must seek after sanctity and manifest it to others: this holiness, this grace which acts in your souls and in your hearts, this grace which you receive by the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist and by the Holy Mass which you offer, which you alone are capable of offering. I shall finish, my dearly beloved brethren, by what I shall call, somewhat, my testament. Testament – that is a very profound word, because I would want it to be the echo of the of Our Lord: “ Novi et aeterni testamenti, novi et aeterni testamenti” – it is the priest who recites these words at the Consecration of the Precious Blood: “ Hic est enim calix Sanguninis mei: novi et aeterni testamenti.” This inheritance which Jesus Christ gave to us, it is His Sacrifice, it is His Blood, it is His Cross. And that is the ferment of all Christian civilization and of all that which is necessary for salvation. And I say to you as well: for the glory of the Most Blessed Trinity, for the love of Our Lord Jesus Christ, for the devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary, for the love of the Church, for the love of the Pope, for the love of bishops, of priests, of all the faithful, for the salvation of the world, for the salvation of souls, keep this Testament of Our Lord Jesus Christ! Keep the Sacrifice of Our Lord Jesus Christ! Keep the Mass of All time! And you will see Christian civilization reflourish, a civilization which is not for this world, but a civilization which leads to the Catholic City which is Heaven. The Catholic City of this world is made for nothing else than for the Catholic City of Heaven. Thus, by keeping the Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, by keeping His Sacrifice, by keeping this Mass, this Mass which has been bequeathed to us by our predecessors, this Mass which has been transmitted from the time of the apostles unto this day – and in a few moments I am going to pronounce these words above the chalice of my ordination, and how could you expect me to pronounce above the chalice of my ordination any other words but those which I pronounced fifty years ago over this same chalice – it is impossible! I cannot change the words! We shall therefore continue to pronounce the words of the Consecration as our predecessors have taught us, as the Pope, bishops and priests who have been our instructors have taught us, so that Our Lord Jesus Christ reign, and so that souls be saved through the intercession of our Good Mother in Heaven. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. The Testimony of a Great Catholic AuthorThe 4 October 1979 issue of the French daily L’Aurore included a dramatic statement by Michel de Saint-Pierre, one of France's most distinguished living writers. He is the author of at least twenty-five full-length books, including some highly acclaimed novels among which is a trilogy dealing with the present crisis in the Church. He is president of the Credo association, an organization of conservative Catholics which is frequently attacked by some traditionalist groups for being insufficiently hard-line. An account of the Credo Pilgrimage to Rome is included in the Apologia Pro Marcel Lefebvre, Volume I. The eloquence and courage with which Michel de Saint-Pierre has spoken out in favor of Archbishop Lefebvre makes his testimony one of the most moving and important ever published. M. de Saint-Pierre is the co-author of Les Fumées de Satan (The Smoke of Satan), a 285-page account of the disintegration of the French Church which was published in 1976. A copy was sent to Pope John Paul II while he was still Cardinal Wojtyla. The author received a most gracious personal acknowledgement from the Cardinal dated 23 December 1977. This is of great significance in view of the fact that the book has already been publicly denounced by the French Episcopate. The article of 4 October was entitled Vaines querelles autour d'un jubilé.
Groundless Wrangling Surrounding a Jubilee
Well before the difficulties which Mgr. Lefebvre later had to face, gossip was already spreading among the French clergy, including the hierarchy concerning the "spirit of independence” and even "rebellion" of the bishop who, at that time had full authorization from Rome, not to mention the encouragement he was receiving from Cardinal Wright, Prefect of the Congregation for the Clergy. Later there was talk concerning the work at Ecône – "this wildcat seminary." Since then the calumnies have not ceased. I think I have the right to discuss this matter in view of the large amount of correspondence I receive. One evening, at the end of a conference I had given on the crisis within the Church, a priest, a professor of theology at one of our Catholic universities, stood up and before several hundred people yelled (I can find no other word), "Mgr. Lefebvre in nothing but a liar!” This offensive priest was dressed in lay clothes without even a cross on his lapel, and wearing a stylish multi-colored tie. His face expressed pure hatred. Now Mgr. Lefebvre has just celebrated his Jubilee of 50 years in the priesthood. This celebration was held as a result of the insistent pleas of his friends: it was the anniversary of 50 years as a priest that we wanted to celebrate with him. One would have thought that during such a solemn occasion the anti-Lefebvre fury would have slackened: that consideration would have been given to the 50-year ministry of a man who have unceasingly given priests to the Church, not forgetting the four bishops of whom one is a cardinal. But no! Cardinal Marty felt obliged to write a letter to the Secretary of State at the Vatican denouncing his confrére, Archbishop Lefebvre – his brother bishop. And our Permanent Council of Bishops, far from being moved by his 50 years in the priesthood, declared that the celebration took on the appearance of an act of provocation, an act of defiance. While recognizing that the Archbishop of Paris had the "right and even the duty to clarify the position to the faithful," Cardinal Casaroli in his letter from Rome, no less recommended that "this should be done in a charitable and serene manner." For our part, we are too familiar with the courtesies and practices in Rome not to realize the importance of this recommendation. For how many years has the French Episcopate been lacking this charity and this serenity in its relations with Mgr. Lefebvre! Rome knows this and is showing its awareness. As for my own modest yet heavy personal correspondence, this alone would suffice to show me the extent of the animosity which still exists in certain religious circles. Have I not been reproached for attending this Jubilee "as an honored guest" thus, ostensibly congratulating a bishop who "struts throughout the dioceses, seeking and stealing seminarians"? Yes! I was there among the crowd estimated by those in charge to be 20,000 or 25,000 people. I was there, not as President of the Credo Society, but as a personal friend of Archbishop Lefebvre, a friendship which has remained unclouded twenty-five years. And our crowd was as solid as bronze, united in intense religious emotion, and moved by gratitude and joy. I cannot see – no, really, I cannot see – how anyone could blame us for paying honor to friendship that day by celebrating the glory and majesty of God. And it must be noted that in this hall which houses a crowd large enough to fill four large French cathedrals, there was no reference to "My buddy God," nor to “Jesus the revolutionary.” The International was not sung, nor was there any class hatred. All classes of society were represented there in this huge metal building which for a single day received the golden chalice and the Host of the poor. We were kneeling before the Infinite God, gathered in His Name, praying in His Name for the Church in France, singing the liturgical hymns in immortal Latin, assisting at the traditional Mass of St. Pius V which is unjustly forbidden in France, the Mass which the priests of the Credo Society celebrated last year in Poland with the blessing of the Cardinals, one of whom is now the reigning Pontiff. If the French bishops are weary of looking at their empty churches, their deserted seminaries, let them at last look in the direction to which John Paul II is pointing. Yes, Your Excellencies, instead of writing like pawns to the Secretary of State to voice your complaints, reflect for a moment, we beg of you. The Gospel announces once and for all that a good tree produces good fruit. The fruit of Ecône was there before our eyes: more than 150 seminarians, more than 100 priests and religious representing at least thirty priories, unparalleled fervor, and the House of God overflowing with what are still called “the faithful.” If you, Your Excellencies, finally decide to give us back the true liturgy, which is the soul of the Church, the true catechism, and monastic discipline in the seminaries, you, too, will soon win the battle for Christ. Meanwhile, you must realize that in spite of the frightful blows he has received, the reward for Mgr. Lefebvre's fifty years in the priesthood was, on this day – and I witnessed it – the sight of 25,000 enraptured souls.
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Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre Volume 2, Chapter XXXVII
Letter to Friends and Benefactors (No. 17)
11 October 1979
Dear Friends and Benefactors, I am writing this seventeenth letter to you from Montalenghe, the new priory and retreat house in Northern Italy, twenty kilometers from Turin. This is the first retreat given at this house and those participating are the new aspirants for the Seminary at Ecône, twenty-seven of the thirty who are beginning their studies at the seminary this year; and for the seventy who are entering our four major seminaries. Speaking of this, I want to add that we have acquired a major seminary in the United States at Ridgefield, Connecticut. The former seminary at Armada will become a priory to serve the Detroit area. The support of priests and the faithful to tradition grows rapidly. The 50th Jubilee ceremony in Paris was visible testimony of this. I again wish to thank those who sent gifts and especially for their prayers and sacrifices which contributed to this Mass of the action of grace. Because we are surrounded by the ruins caused by the corruption of minds and hearts, the evidence of the vitality of the Church of all time takes on a priceless value. We are permitted to hope that we can restore destroyed altars, that we can offer again the true Sacrifice of the Mass. By contrast, when one lives with an ecumenical Eucharist, democratic and liberal, the auto-destruction continues, despite all the calls to order, the statements most worthy of respect and the most spectacular of ceremonies. " Nisi Dominus aedificaverit domum in vanum laboraverunt qui aedificant eam – If the Lord does not construct the building, the builders work in vain." Therefore, the altar of sacrifice of propitiation, the heritage of the new and eternal testament; the Body and Blood of Jesus are the foundation stone of the Church from whence gush the waters of eternal life. Let us keep confidence in God, in Jesus and Mary, who will obtain that the authorities of the Church will restore the altars. While awaiting that day, let us pray and multiply the altars and the priests for the celebration of the Holy Mass where the Sacred Victim offers Himself, Ardent Furnace of Love, for the redemption of our sins. This is the goal of the Priestly Fraternity of the Society of St. Pius X which already numbers 200 members. You have already noted that the number of priories grows year by year. This is why it has appeared to me urgent to organize central headquarters for the Society by having a General House where the Secretary General and the Econome General (Treasurer) will establish the headquarters and where all correspondence for the Superior General will be sent. The address of this house appears below. This action will place us more in conformity with Canon Law, the districts being the foundation of future provinces. You may also note that we have divided the United States into two districts, and that the house of Brussels is now open. This has been desirable for several years. The magazine Fideliter from the French District will give you more information about priories and schools, as other bulletins and publications have in the past. Young aspirants to the priesthood, or to the religious life as brothers or auxiliaries of the priestly apostolate, should contact the priories where they can obtain all the useful information they need pertaining to their vocation, either in the Fraternity, or in the numerous active or contemplative religious houses which are united the same faith and the same hope. We pray that Mary, the Mother of Jesus, whose feast of Divine Motherhood we celebrate today, become always more our Mother for our identification with Jesus, her Son. We pray that St. Joseph, who will return your generosity a hundredfold, will help us for the development of our work which gives to the world the testimony it has so much need of today: that of saintly priests. Affectionately united with in you in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary, †Marcel Lefebvre 11 October 1979 Fraternité Saint Pie X Prieure – St. Nicholas-de-Flue CH-4613 Rickenbach (Soleure) Switzerland
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Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre Volume 2, Chapter XXXVIII
A Warning from Louis Salleron
25 October 1979
The following article by Professor Louis Salleron appeared in the October 1979 issue of the French daily L’Aurore. It seems more pertinent today than when it first appeared. Professor Salleron warns us of a sociological phenomenon which is extremely relevant to traditional Catholics. They are consistently rejected, denigrated, and even ridiculed by those in authority in the Church, and sometimes by the parish clergy and their Catholic acquaintances. When a minority group is treated in such a fashion it is far from unusual for its members to develop the characteristics which they had been falsely accused of possessing. Traditional Catholics are frequently accused of being schismatic and after years of consistent rejection by the official Church it is hardly surprising if, for practical purposes, some no longer continue their fight for tradition within the Church but as a clearly defined group outside her. Professor Salleron's warning was confirmed dramatically in October 1981 when a group of such Catholics, who had declared that the Holy See was vacant, took the ultimate step of having their own "sedevacantist" bishops consecrated by an elderly Vietnamese Archbishop, Mgr. Pierre Martin Ngo-Dinh-Thuc. These "bishops" have since consecrated others, and now in Europe, Mexico, and the United States there exists a de facto schism, what can be termed accurately a sedevacantist sect. The fact that those adhering to this sect may have been provoked and scandalized beyond what they could humanly endure does not alter the gravity of their action. Archbishop Lefebvre has rejected sedevacantism firmly and consistently, and has taken what must have been for him the very sad step of expelling priests from the Society of St. Pius X for accepting the thesis that the Holy See is vacant. A statement which he made on this subject is included as Chapter XL. Professor Salleron 's article follows:
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Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre Volume 2, Chapter XXXIX
Christ the King - A Sermon by His Grace
28 October 1979
Archbishop Lefebvre preached this sermon on 28 October 1979, the Feast of Christ the King. It provides a pertinent reminder to traditional Catholics that their lives should be motivated by a profound love for Our Lord Jesus Christ, and a sincere effort to do His will. Living by the precepts expounded by the Archbishop in this sermon is the most effective means by which traditional Catholics can avoid the danger of schism against which Professor Salleron warned in the preceding chapter. A movement which does not define itself by what it is for, but by what it is against, can have no spiritual dimension. It will inevitably degenerate into an introverted, bitter, and declining minority. "Are our hearts truly attached to Our Lord Jesus Christ?" asks the Archbishop. "Are we conscious that Our Lord Jesus Christ is our ALL – Omnia in omnibus? Jesus Christ is all and in all things." The full text of the Archbishop’s sermon follows:
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Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre Volume 2, Chapter XL
The New Mass and the Pope
8 November 1979
In the following statement dated 8 November 1979, Archbishop Lefebvre clarified his position and that of the Society of St. Pius X on the subject of the New Mass and the Pope. This clarification had been made necessary by the growing number of traditional Catholics who claimed that the New Mass was intrinsically invalid, even in its papally approved Latin version, and that the Holy See was vacant. In the latter case, some claimed that Pope Paul VI had been a heretic before assuming office, and had never been truly Pope, and others alleged that he had lost his office through heresy. These two opinions certainly have an emotional rather than a theological basis. The New Mass is so frequently celebrated with such banality and even profanity that many Catholics cannot convince themselves that it is truly a Mass. Pope Paul VI was so inactive in stemming the tide of heresy which was engulfing the Church that many Catholics could not convince themselves that he was truly the Pope. Some, who were not prepared to claim that he had lost his office through heresy, concocted the most bizarre theories purporting to prove that Pope Paul VI had been kidnapped and replaced by an impostor, adducing photographs of his ears and recordings of “voice patterns” to prove their case! Quite frequently the “impostor pope” thesis formed part of an alleged private revelation. The explanation for the “vacant see” and “kidnapped pope” theses probably lies in the fact that for well over a century we have had a series of fine popes whose teaching and example have fulfilled the highest expectations of the faithful. But such popes have by no means always been the norm in the Church, as is made clear in Appendix I, to Volume I of the Apologia. In the statement which follows, the Archbishop reminds us that a pope can fall far short of the standards we would like to find in a successor of St. Peter, but still be a true pope in the legal sense, i.e., in that he is the legitimately elected successor of St. Peter who has not forfeited his office through formal heresy. In the case of the New Mass, it is evident that while still upholding its intrinsic validity, the Archbishop has adopted a more negative stance towards assisting at it than he did in earlier years. This is not surprising, because, as the years have passed, the manner in which the New Mass is celebrated has become consistently more unacceptable in many parishes. Matters had reached the stage in 1980 that Pope John Paul II needed to offer an apology to the faithful for the scandal and disturbance caused to them by the way the New Mass was so frequently celebrated. 1 In the same year he felt it necessary to order the publication of an Instruction, Inaestimabile Donum, intended to curtail some of the more flagrant abuses. 2 This Instruction has been largely ignored. Unfortunately, the Archbishop's statement was not as clearly worded as it might have been on the matter. One passage in particular gave some readers the impression that the Archbishop had stated that a Catholic could never fulfil his Sunday obligation by assisting at the New Mass. Among those who had received this impression from the statement was Cardinal Seper, who mentioned the anxiety it had caused him during an interview he granted me at Easter 1980. I had the opportunity of a long interview with the Archbishop a few weeks later when we discussed the matter. He was kind enough to summarize his considered opinion for me in writing (dated 9 May 1980). It read as follows: Thus where the Archbishop states that “these New Masses are incapable of fulfilling our Sunday obligation,” he is referring to New Masses which involve “sacrilegious acts which pervert the faith by diminishing it.” The declaration which he made at my request makes it quite clear that this was indeed his meaning. It has also been suggested that the Archbishop exaggerated in claiming that most celebrations of the New Mass today “are sacrilegious acts which pervert the faith by diminishing it.” It is quite possible that he has overstated the extent to which the liturgy has declined to this level. Not unnaturally, in his travels around the world he tends to meet Catholics who have felt unable to assist at their parish churches any longer because of such abuses. But there are many priests, perhaps more than he imagines, who have felt it their duty to remain in their parishes and celebrate the New Mass in the most reverent way possible for the good of their people. In such cases far fewer of their people would be likely to assist at the Masses of society priests, and hence meet or write to the Archbishop. But as the years pass, these conservative priests die, retire, or are replaced, and so it is inevitable that the state of the liturgy will degenerate with each succeeding year, unless drastic action is taken by the Pope to remedy the situation; the issuing of an Instruction such as Inaestimabile Donum, which is defied with impunity, does not constitute such action. 3 The text of the Archbishop's statement follows: 8 November 1979
The New Mass and the Pope
How often during these last ten years have I not had occasion to respond to questions concerning the weighty problems of the New Mass and the Pope. In answering them I have ever been careful to breathe with the spirit of the Church, conforming myself to her Faith as expressed in her theological principles, and to her pastoral prudence as expressed in moral theology and in the long experiences of her history. I think I can say that my own views have not changed over the years and that they are, happily, those of the great majority of priests and faithful attached to the indefectible Tradition of the Church. It should be clear that the few lines which follow are not an exhaustive study of these problems, The purpose, rather is to clarify our conclusions to such an extent that no one may be mistaken regarding the official position of the Society of St, Pius X. It must be understood immediately that we do not hold to the absurd idea that if the New Mass is valid, we are then free to assist at it. The Church has always forbidden the faithful to assist at the Masses of heretics and schismatics, even when they are valid. It is clear that no one can assist at sacrilegious Masses or at Masses which endanger our faith. Now, it is easy to show that the New Mass, as it was formulated by the officially authorized Conciliar Liturgical Commission considered together with the accompanying explanation of Mgr. Bugnini, manifests an inexplicable rapprochement with the theology and liturgy of the Protestants. The following fundamental dogmas of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass are not clearly represented and are even contradicted: - that the priest is the essential minister of the Rite; - that in the Mass there is a true sacrifice, a sacrificial action; - that the Victim or Host is Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, present under the species of bread and wine, with His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity; - that this Sacrifice is a propitiatory one; - that the Sacrifice and the Sacrament are effected by the words of the Consecration alone, and not also by those which either precede or follow them.
It is sufficient to enumerate a few of the novelties in the New Mass to be convinced of the rapprochement with the Protestants; - the altar replaced by a table without an altar stone; - Mass celebrated facing the people, concelebrated, in a loud voice, and in the vernacular; - the Mass divided into two distinct parts: Liturgy of the Word, and Liturgy of the Eucharist; - the cheapening of the sacred vessels, the use of leavened bread, distribution of Holy Communion in the hand, and by the laity, and even by women; - the Blessed Sacrament hidden in corners; - the Epistle read by women; - Holy Communion brought to the sick by laity.
All these innovations are authorized. One can fairly say without exaggeration that most of these Masses are sacrilegious acts which pervert the Faith by diminishing it. The de-sacralization is such that these Masses risk the loss of their supernatural character, their mysterium fidei; they would then be no more than acts of natural religion. These New Masses are not only incapable of fulfilling our Sunday obligation, but are such that we must apply to them the canonical rules which the Church customarily applies to communicatio in sacris with Orthodox Churches and Protestant sects. Must one conclude further that all these Masses are invalid? As long as the essential conditions for validity are present (matter, form, intention, and a validly ordained priest), I do not see how one can affirm this. The prayers at the Offertory, the Canon, and the Priest’s Communion which surround the words of Consecration are necessary, not to the validity of the Sacrifice and the Sacrament, but rather to their integrity. When the imprisoned Cardinal Mindszenty, desiring to nourish himself with the Body and Blood of Our Lord, and to escape the gaze of his captors, pronounced solely the words of Consecration over a little bread and wine, he most certainly accomplished the Sacrifice and the Sacrament. It is clear, however, that fewer and fewer Masses are valid these days, as the faith of priests is destroyed and they possess no longer the intention to do what the Church does – an intention which the Church cannot change. The current formation of those who are called seminarians today does not prepare them to celebrate Mass validly. The propitiatory Sacrifice of the Mass is no longer considered the essential work of the priest. Nothing is sadder or more disappointing than to read the sermons or teachings of the Conciliar bishops on the subject of vocations, or on the occasion of a priestly ordination. They no longer know what a priest is. Nevertheless, in order to judge the subjective fault of those who celebrate the New Mass as of those who attend it, we must apply the roles of the discernment of spirits given us in moral and pastoral theology. We (the priests of the Society) must always act as doctors of the soul and not as judge and hangmen. Those who are tempted by this latter course are animated by a bitter spirit and not true zeal for souls. I hope that our young priests will be inspired by the words of St. Pius X in his first encyclical, and by the numerous texts on this subject to be found in such works as The Soul of the Apostolate by Dom Chautard, Christian Perfection and Contemplation by Garrigou-Lagrange, and Christ the Ideal of the Monk by Dom Marmion. Let us now pass to a second but no less important subject: does the Church have a true Pope or an impostor on the Throne of St. Peter? Happy are those who have lived and died without having to pose such a question! One must indeed recognize that the pontificate of Paul VI posed, and continues to pose, a serious problem of conscience for the faithful. Without reference to his culpability for the terrible demolition of the Church which took place under his pontificate, one cannot but realize that he hastened the causes of that decline in every domain. One can fairly ask oneself how it was possible that a successor of Peter can, in so little time, have caused more damage to the Church than the French Revolution. Some precise facts, such as the signatures which he gave to Article VII in the Instruction concerning the New Mass, and to the Declaration on Religious Liberty, are indeed scandalous and have led certain traditionalists to affirm that Paul VI was heretical and thus no longer Pope. They argue further that, chosen by a heretical Pope, the great majority of the cardinals are not cardinals at all and thus lacked the authority to elect another Pope. Pope John Paul I and Pope John Paul II were thus, they say, illegitimately elected. They continue that it is inadmissible to pray for a pope who is not Pope or to have any "conversations" (like mine of November 1978) with one who has no right to the Chair of Peter. As with the question of the invalidity of the Novus Ordo, those who affirm that there is no Pope over-simplify the problem. The reality is more complex. If one begins to study the question of whether or not a Pope can be heretical, one quickly discovers that the problem is not as simple as one might have thought. The very objective study of Xaverio de Silverira on this subject demonstrates that a good number of theologians teach that the Pope can be heretical as a private doctor or theologian but not as a teacher of the Universal Church. One must then examine in what measure Pope Paul VI willed to engage in infallibility in the diverse cases where he signed texts close to heresy if not formally heretical. But we can say that in the two cases cited above, as in many another, Paul VI acted much more the Liberal than as a man attached to heresy. For when one informed him of the danger that he ran in approving certain conciliar texts, he would proceed to render the text contradictory by adding a formula contrary in meaning to affirmations already in the text, or by drafting an equivocal formula. Now, equivocation is the very mark of the Liberal, who is inconsistent by nature. The Liberalism of Paul VI, recognized by his friend, Cardinal Daniélou, is thus sufficient to explain the disasters of his pontificate. Pope Pius IX, in particular, spoke often of the Liberal Catholic, whom he considered a destroyer of the Church. The Liberal Catholic is a two-sided being, living in a world of continual self-contradiction. While he would like to remain Catholic, he is possessed by a thirst to appease the world. He affirms his faith weakly, fearing to appear too dogmatic, and as a result, his actions are similar to those of the enemies of the Catholic Faith. Can a Pope be Liberal and remain Pope? The Church has always severely reprimanded Liberal Catholics, but she has not always excommunicated them. Here, too, we must continue in the spirit of the Church. We must refuse Liberalism from whatever source it comes because the Church has always condemned it. She has done so because it is contrary, in the social realm especially, to the Kingship of Our Lord. Does not the exclusion of the cardinals of over eighty years of ages, and the secret meetings which preceded and prepared the last two Conclaves, render them invalid? Invalid: no, that is saying too much. Doubtful at the time: perhaps. But in any case, the subsequent unanimous acceptance of the election by the Cardinals and the Roman clergy suffices to validate it. That is the teaching of the theologians. The visibility of the Church is too necessary to its existence for it to be possible that God would allow that visibility to disappear for decades. The reasoning of those who deny that we have a Pope puts the Church in an inextricable situation. Who will tell us who the future Pope is to be? How, as there are no Cardinals, is he to be chosen? This spirit is a schismatical one for at least the majority of those who attach themselves to certainly schismatical sects like Palmar de Troya, the Eglise Latine de Toulouse, and others. Our Fraternity absolutely refuses to enter into such reasonings. We wish to remain attached to Rome and to the Successor of Peter, while refusing his Liberalism through fidelity to his predecessors. We are not afraid to speak to him, respectfully but firmly, as did St. Paul with St. Peter. And so, far from refusing to pray for the Pope, we redouble our prayers and supplications that the Holy Ghost will grant him light and strength in his affirmations and defense of the Faith. Thus, I have never refused to go to Rome at his request or that of his representatives. The Truth must be affirmed at Rome above all other places. It is of God, and He will assure its ultimate triumph. Consequently, the Society of St. Pius X, its priests, brothers, sisters, and oblates, cannot tolerate among its members those who refuse to pray for the Pope or affirm that the Novus Ordo Missae is per se invalid. Certainly, we suffer from this continual incoherence which consists in praising all the Liberal orientations of Vatican II and at the same time straining to mitigate its effects. But all of this must incite us to prayer and to the firm maintenance of Tradition rather than to the affirmation that the Pope is not the Pope. In conclusion, we must have that missionary spirit which is the true spirit of the Church. We must do everything to bring about the reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ according to the words of our Holy Patron, St. Pius X: Instaurare omnia in Christo. We must restore all things in Christ, and we must submit to all, as did Our Lord in His Passion for the salvation of souls and the triumph of Truth. " In hoc natus sum," said Our Lord to Pilate, " ut testimonium perhibeam veritati." “I was born to give witness to the Truth." 1. See Pope Paul’s New Mass, p. 240.
2. Ibid., pp. 65-66.
3. Inaestimabile Donum forbids girls to serve on the altar, but this instruction is widely defied in the U.S.A. The Apostolic Delegate has been made aware of this but no action has been taken to curtail the abuse (see The Angelus, December 1982).
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Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre Volume 2, Chapter XLI
Three More Letters
Letter of Mgr. Lefebvre to the Sovereign PontiffMost Holy Father, A year has passed since I had the honor of being received in audience by you. Conversations with Cardinal Seper in the course of the year have, I hope, been sufficient to show that nothing on our part is opposed to a solution being found. In these few lines I should like to show you clearly our wish to see this solution come about for the good of the Church and of souls. Through your discourses you have made evident your attachment to Our Lord Jesus Christ Who is the only solution to all problems, your fidelity to Catholic morality, and your wish to restore the priestly and religious life. This is, moreover, what we have never ceased to uphold and to put into practice. It is because we believed that these aims could only be attained by worship which corresponds to them, worship utilized by the Church from its origins up to and including the Second Vatican Council, that we have been cruelly condemned. The Liturgy is more than a mere ritual used in worship, it is the expression of Faith and the source of Grace. It is thus of fundamental importance in the Christian life. The Sacrifice of the Mass is truly the mysterium fidei in all its plenitude. It manifests the great mystery of Christ Crucified, a mystery of charity through self-sacrifice. Finally, the Liturgy puts the soul into direct contact with Our Lord, communicating to us His own divine life. The restoration of the Church will be brought about through this divinely instituted heritage which is the treasure and the heart of the Church. This is why we ask insistently for the use of this Liturgy which will imbue the Church with a new youthfulness. Priests will rediscover the sense of their priesthood and the greatness of its demands; religious of both sexes will discover the meaning of their self-oblation; married couples will rediscover the true meaning of the Sacrament of Matrimony, and obtain the graces necessary to live out their married life according to divine law. The Mystery of the Cross and the Sacrifice of Our Lord are the inexhaustible source of the graces necessary for the fulfilment of the Christian life. The considerable decrease in the number of Masses now being offered explains the acceleration of the crisis in the Church. May Our Lady of Mercy inspire you, and come to your aid, to bring about the solution which is so ardently desired. As soon as the liturgical problem is solved, the particular problems of Ecône and other (traditionalist) groups, as well as of the nuns, will also be solved, providing that the bishops show understanding and good will. I beg Your Holiness to accept my personal homage, and my filial sentiments in Jesus and Mary. †Marcel Lefebvre 20 November 1979
Letter of Mgr. Lefebvre to Cardinal SeperYour Eminence, The anniversary of the audience granted to me by the Holy Father on 18 November last year seemed to me a favorable occasion to express anew to him our desire that the problem of the Liturgy should not drag on any longer, for the good of the Church and the salvation of souls. The climate for such a solution is far more favorable now than a year ago, even in France where many bishops would rejoice at a peacemaking intervention. The Cardinal of Paris has just promised a Solemn High Requiem according to the Old Rite on the occasion of the death of General Vautier, the father of one of our friends, and this he had always refused up till now, even for President Pompidou. An opinion poll has just shown that five million French Catholics are in favor of the traditional liturgy. If a solution is too long delayed, many will lose the Faith, and others will join sects such as Palmar de Troya, and all the Pentecostal and Protestant sects. I expect to be in Rome, or, rather, at our house in Albano, on 5 December and the following days. I am always at your disposal. In requesting you to pass on the enclosed file to the Holy Father, I beg Your Eminence to accept my respectful and fraternally devoted wishes in Christo et Maria. †Marcel Lefebvre 8 March 1980
Letter of Mgr. Lefebvre to the Sovereign Pontiff1Most Holy Father, To put an end to some rumours which are now spreading both in Rome and certain traditionalist circles in Europe, and even in America, concerning my attitude and my way of thinking with respect to the Pope, the Council, and the Novus Ordo Mass, and fearing lest these rumours should reach Your Holiness, I may make so bold as to reaffirm my consistent position. 1. I have no reservation whatsoever concerning the legitimacy and validity of your election, and consequently I cannot tolerate there not being addressed to God the prayers prescribed by Holy Church for Your Holiness. I have already had to act with severity, and continue to do so, with regard to some seminarians and priests who have allowed themselves to be influenced by certain clerics who do not belong to the Society. 2. I am fully in agreement with the judgment that Your Holiness gave on the Second Vatican Council, on 6 November 1978, at a meeting of the Sacred College: "that the Council must be understood in the light of the whole of holy Tradition, and on the basis of the unvarying Magisterium of Holy Mother Church." 3. As for the Novus Ordo Mass, despite the reservations which must be shown in its respect, I have never affirmed that it is in itself invalid or heretical. I would be grateful to God and to Your Holiness if these clear declarations could hasten the free use of the traditional liturgy, and the recognition of the Society of St. Pius X by the Church, and likewise of all those who, subscribing to these declarations, have striven to save the Church by perpetuating its Tradition. I beg Your Holiness to accept my profound and filial respect i n Christo et Maria. †Marcel Lefebvre 1. Although this volume takes the Archbishop’s story only up to the end of 1979, this letter has been included as it removes any ambiguity concerning the Archbishop’s position on certain fundamental points.
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Apologia pro Marcel Lefebvre Volume 2, Appendix
An Interview with Archbishop Lefebvre
Interview granted by Mgr. Lefebvre to Dr. Eric M. de Saventhem, President of the International Federation Una Voce
Dr. de Saventhem: Excellency, it is known that you were in Rome on the 10th and 11th January for further discussions with Cardinal Seper, Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Was it at Pope John Paul’s request that the Cardinal received you?
Mgr. Lefebvre: There has been some misunderstanding on this matter. It is true that an investigation has been in progress since January, 1978, and that it was to be continued by talks in Rome. Meanwhile, during the audience, the Holy Father, Pope John Paul II, assigned to Cardinal Seper, as to a trusted friend, the question of Ecône. It does not seem that he had in mind a procedure already in progress, hence the misunderstanding.
Dr. de Saventhem: Have you been interrogated?
Mgr. Lefebvre: Yes, twice, for three-hour periods. Seventeen series of questions by five interrogators accompanied by a secretary; but I was refused permission to bring even one witness.
Dr. de Saventhem: Early in January, a large circulation American magazine stated that, during the audience of the 18th November last, the Holy Father confronted you with an ultimatum: either you submitted to the Pope, or else you left the Church. Since then numerous papers have repeated the, burden of that report, as if your excommunication was imminent. Mgr. Lefebvre: That is pure invention. The object of the discussions, I suppose, was to clarify the position with a view to finding a solution.
Dr. de Saventhem: Nevertheless, the report that the Pope might soon lift the canonical sanctions imposed on you has not been confirmed. In fact, one wonders how the a divinis suspension could be lifted unless you agreed to refrain forever from ordaining seminarians without dimissorial letters. Mgr. Lefebvre: This problem arises from the canonical status of our confraternity. The ordinations branded by some as "wildcat" had become necessary from the moment when the Secretariat of State, in a circular letter to all Episcopal Conferences, forbade diocesan bishops to incardinate our seminarians: and to give them dimissorial letters. This prohibition is an encroachment without precedent on one of the oldest episcopal prerogatives. Without it we would always have found resident bishops willing to regularize the canonical status of our young men. In order to solve this problem, it would be sufficient for our Society to be recognized as coming directly under pontifical authority.
Dr. de Saventhem: Would not such an official recognition imply that you had previously answered Pope Paul's priority request to you to declare publicly your sincere adherence to the Second Ecumenical Council of the Vatican and to all its texts? Mgr. Lefebvre: In reply to that request I had already written the following to Pope Paul VI: "I accept everything that, in the Council and its reforms, is in full agreement with Tradition." I have never been told why this declaration was considered inadequate; After all, a Catholic can adhere to the texts of a Council only in the light of the continuing constant teaching of the Church. That is a fundamental principle of the Catholic Faith, and my very clear impression is that, under Pope John Paul II, we shall see it confirmed; as much in the interpretation as in the application of conciliar texts.
Dr. de Saventhem: Did you discuss this matter with the Holy Father during your audience? Mgr. Lefebvre: I am thinking rather about what he declared publicly in his very first message to the world after the election. Referring to the conciliar Magna Carta – the Dogmatic Constitution on the Church – the Pope said that it must be read in "the light of tradition," and that we must "integrate into it the dogmatic formulations laid down by the First Vatican Council." Only thus would the text become for all, priests and faithful, "the secret of an unerring orientation." If I were asked to declare my adherence to the conciliar texts "read in the light of tradition and integrated with the dogmatic formulations previously laid down by the Magisterium of the Church," I would sign without hesitation.
Dr. de Saventhem: Have you, in fact, signed a text of this nature, either before the audience with the Holy Father, or during your discussions with Cardinal Seper?
Mgr. Lefebvre: I can say that, in the course of the audience, the Pope accepted that declaration regarding the Council, and that it will be signed with Cardinal Seper at some time.
Dr. de Saventhem: Excellency, your confraternity now runs not only seminaries; but a dozen priories and two convents. All these institutions continue their liturgical life notwithstanding the rule of conduct promulgated by Pope Paul VI. Moreover, they refuse to conform with the "new orientations" adopted almost everywhere else. Even if Rome were willing to allow you to perform "the experiment of tradition," is there not a risk that, at diocesan government level, very serious problems would arise? Mgr. Lefebvre: Let us begin with liturgical norms. They should, and could be made more flexible; that is the sole responsibility of the Holy See. With regard to the Mass, Pope Paul VI certainly never officially forbade the use of the Old Rite. Indeed, Mr. President, it was thanks to your wife that we have had oral confirmation of this from Cardinal Benelli himself. * On the other hand, it is known that a good number of cardinals and bishops have expressed the desire to see the pre-conciliar rites re-admitted everywhere. Without doubt, there would be local problems, but there would also be the immense relief of numerous priests and faithful on recovering traditional rites and the devotion that accompanies them. Bishops would straightway experience the benefit to their dioceses. I dare to hope that the new Pope, in his pastoral solicitude, will not long delay this conciliatory gesture.
Dr. de Saventhem: There still remain the various post-conciliar "orientations" which Your Excellency has stigmatized as incompatible with the tradition and Magisterium of the Church and which your confraternity resolutely continues to oppose. Would you say that the claim that these orientations are derived from Vatican II is exaggerated? Mgr. Lefebvre: It is true that in many fields – ecumenism: the institutions of the Church; liturgy; reform of seminaries and of religious life - the standards set by the Council have been left far behind. In their application, the new orientations have been used as a pretext for leaping into "creativity" and continuous evolution.
Dr. de Saventhem: There are nevertheless other new orientations manifestly favored by the Council. I am thinking especially of the so-called liturgical renewal.
Mgr. Lefebvre: I think I can state that all the novel orientations were favored by the spirit of the Council, as well as by the too often ambiguous written word. The liberal spirit of the Council, by its nature, leads to compromise with the spirit of man and of the modern world-which is in opposition to the Catholic spirit. That is especially the case in documents such as those on religious liberty; on the Church in the world and on non-Christian religions. Our fidelity to the Church prompts us to labor resolutely and patiently for a return to her great traditions. Our priories might be seen as beacons to mark our way on the long road ahead of us.
Dr. de Saventhem: Have you found, in your conversations with him, Cardinal Seper open to the ideas you have just expressed?
Mgr. Lefebvre: I value the Cardinal's sincerity very highly and I hope that he will seize the opportunity given to him by the Holy Father to manifest courageously the attachment which he certainly has for Tradition; but about which he has deemed it right, in obedience, to maintain silence during the last years. Millions of Catholics await with longing the application of religious freedom to the centuries-old tradition of the Church.
Dr. de Saventhem: In thanking you, Excellency, for this interview, I take the liberty, on behalf of those millions of Catholics, of assuring you and His Eminence Cardinal Seper of our most fervent prayers.
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