Unify the thinking of traditionalists: A Masonic Mechanism
Aug 24, 2018 13:27:21 GMT
Post by Admin on Aug 24, 2018 13:27:21 GMT
Unify the thinking of traditionalists behind international meetings: a Masonic mechanism.
Translated and adapted from here:
What good are these symposia if it is not to soften by the verb (without the acts) the traditionalists who, they have decided to cut with the modernists for decades.
These meetings are, without saying it, traps for traditionalists (and it works) and we are not a little surprised to read the enthusiastic report of the abbot Citati on the official website of the SSPX (of Menzingen: under authority of Father Pagliarani).
Father Citati gives us the finality of these colloquia: "the goal is not to change the institutions " (sic!) (Conciliar church, new code etc) but to transmit the " sensus fidei " (conciliar?) within the framework of these institutions. These meetings must create convergences between various movements of the tradition (in the broad sense) to create a convergence of ideas.
In short, the masonry continues its work to unify the tradition within the framework of the conciliar church: testifies the presence of an official representative of the secretary of state.
GREC is not dead, it is emulated in Rome.
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Organized by Professor Roberto de Mattei, an international meeting on the theme "Old and New Modernism: The Roots of the Crisis in the Church", was held on Saturday, June 23, 2018, in the conference room of the Hotel Massimo d'Azeglio, in the heart of Rome.
The congress, which was in line with the Correctio filialis of 16 July 2017 - of which many of the signatories were also present as lecturers or assistants - had a high scientific character, as the curriculum vitae speakers and the level of the different conferences. Mattei's teacher pointed out from the beginning that the purpose of the meeting was not to propose ready-made conclusions - the last word for the solemn Magisterium of the Church - but to open a debate.
At the end of the day, the Italian academic perfectly summarized the congress and the essential aspects of the interventions:
John Lamont analyzed the relationship between modernism and" new theology ", making useful distinctions between the two phases of this phenomenon: the first at the time of St. Pius X and the second under Pius XII - without questioning their fundamental continuity - and also highlighting a certain weakness of ecclesiastical authority, in the second phase, in the way of countering this attack.
"Enrico Maria Radaelli recalled the great figure and importance of the work of Romano Amerio, and extended his analysis to the most recent popes.
"Father Albert Kallio op reminded us of the importance, in the Second Vatican Council, of the doctrine of collegiality, which has important consequences both theologically and practically, because it contradicts many of the truths of the faith.
"Father Claude Barthe has shown that a" pastoral "council also corresponds to a" pastoral "liturgy, and thus analyzed the liturgical problem in a new and interesting way.
"Maria Guarini - who claimed another teacher to be placed alongside Romano Amerio, Mgr Brunero Gherardini - has developed the relationship between two problems already mentioned, but that she had the merit of analyzing in their relations the problem of liturgy and that of collegiality.
"Don Alberto Strumia dealt with a rather new topic in our congresses: a constructive confrontation between natural sciences and sacred sciences. He pointed out a paradoxical fact, namely that at a time when Catholic theologians are "de-hellenizing" by abandoning Aristotelian-Thomistic metaphysics, many contemporary scholars, even atheists, rediscover Aristotle and use it as a basis for their studies.
"We also received a message from Bishop Bernard Fellay, Superior of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X, who showed us that the difficulties we know and are debating today have their roots in the years of the Council and the post-council. He has brought to light a very interesting documentation, drawn from a correspondence between Cardinal Ottaviani and Archbishop Lefebvre.
"We closed our work with two very recent lectures, that of Professor Valerio Gigliotti on the discussed issue of the hypothesis of a heretical pope, and that of José Antonio Ureta on the" paradigm shift "that has come to light. the pontificate of Pope Francis. Valerio Gigliotti did not make concrete references to the current situation, but he addressed the question of the heretic pope in the light of the history of the Church and canon law, recalling that the theological and legal tradition of the The Church admits almost unanimously the possibility of the heresy of a pope. José Antonio Ureta has proposed to us a concrete way, that of a resistance which can even go so far as to interrupt the cohabitation with the bad pastors, because it is not possible to be in a state of usual ecclesial union - for to give just one example - with churchmen who are in favor of the communion of "remarried divorcees" or intercommunion: how could we send our children to attend catechism classes for such priests?"
What is ultimately the end and importance of such a meeting? [...] The doctrine of the Church is not lost, but what we have lost is the sensus fidei . I believe that initiatives of this kind make it possible in particular to reconstruct and nourish the sensus fidei. We do not delude ourselves that we are going to change the institutional situation of the Church; our action is at the level of the Catholic world, of those who, among Catholics, are still close enough to Tradition, to strengthen precisely this sensus fidei and to create, through these encounters, a network, a convergence of ideas , thought and spirit, this cor unum and anima una that has always characterized authentically Catholic communities. [...] This is an indispensable condition so that the doctrine can find a concrete application in reality.
"This meeting," concludes the teacher of Mattei, "is an ideal continuation of the Correctio filialis. Be certain, it will not be the last: others will follow. "
This day of study and profession of faith ended with the blessing given by Bishop Marco Agostini, official of the Secretary of State and pontifical ceremonial, present at the congress.
-Abbot Angelo Citati
[All emphasis in this citation - reproduced from here.]
source: FSSPX news (official website of the FSSPX)
Organized by Professor Roberto de Mattei, an international meeting on the theme "Old and New Modernism: The Roots of the Crisis in the Church", was held on Saturday, June 23, 2018, in the conference room of the Hotel Massimo d'Azeglio, in the heart of Rome.
The congress, which was in line with the Correctio filialis of 16 July 2017 - of which many of the signatories were also present as lecturers or assistants - had a high scientific character, as the curriculum vitae speakers and the level of the different conferences. Mattei's teacher pointed out from the beginning that the purpose of the meeting was not to propose ready-made conclusions - the last word for the solemn Magisterium of the Church - but to open a debate.
At the end of the day, the Italian academic perfectly summarized the congress and the essential aspects of the interventions:
"We intended to open a debate in the Church rather than settle it. We have no authority to close a debate, but we have every right to open it by asking questions, raising doubts and highlighting real problems. In my intervention, I sought to draw a historical panorama, beginning with modernism, to try to show how, a century later, we still live immersed in the same problems, or rather in a neo-modernism."
John Lamont analyzed the relationship between modernism and" new theology ", making useful distinctions between the two phases of this phenomenon: the first at the time of St. Pius X and the second under Pius XII - without questioning their fundamental continuity - and also highlighting a certain weakness of ecclesiastical authority, in the second phase, in the way of countering this attack.
"Enrico Maria Radaelli recalled the great figure and importance of the work of Romano Amerio, and extended his analysis to the most recent popes.
"Father Albert Kallio op reminded us of the importance, in the Second Vatican Council, of the doctrine of collegiality, which has important consequences both theologically and practically, because it contradicts many of the truths of the faith.
"Father Claude Barthe has shown that a" pastoral "council also corresponds to a" pastoral "liturgy, and thus analyzed the liturgical problem in a new and interesting way.
"Maria Guarini - who claimed another teacher to be placed alongside Romano Amerio, Mgr Brunero Gherardini - has developed the relationship between two problems already mentioned, but that she had the merit of analyzing in their relations the problem of liturgy and that of collegiality.
"Don Alberto Strumia dealt with a rather new topic in our congresses: a constructive confrontation between natural sciences and sacred sciences. He pointed out a paradoxical fact, namely that at a time when Catholic theologians are "de-hellenizing" by abandoning Aristotelian-Thomistic metaphysics, many contemporary scholars, even atheists, rediscover Aristotle and use it as a basis for their studies.
"We also received a message from Bishop Bernard Fellay, Superior of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Pius X, who showed us that the difficulties we know and are debating today have their roots in the years of the Council and the post-council. He has brought to light a very interesting documentation, drawn from a correspondence between Cardinal Ottaviani and Archbishop Lefebvre.
"We closed our work with two very recent lectures, that of Professor Valerio Gigliotti on the discussed issue of the hypothesis of a heretical pope, and that of José Antonio Ureta on the" paradigm shift "that has come to light. the pontificate of Pope Francis. Valerio Gigliotti did not make concrete references to the current situation, but he addressed the question of the heretic pope in the light of the history of the Church and canon law, recalling that the theological and legal tradition of the The Church admits almost unanimously the possibility of the heresy of a pope. José Antonio Ureta has proposed to us a concrete way, that of a resistance which can even go so far as to interrupt the cohabitation with the bad pastors, because it is not possible to be in a state of usual ecclesial union - for to give just one example - with churchmen who are in favor of the communion of "remarried divorcees" or intercommunion: how could we send our children to attend catechism classes for such priests?"
What is ultimately the end and importance of such a meeting? [...] The doctrine of the Church is not lost, but what we have lost is the sensus fidei . I believe that initiatives of this kind make it possible in particular to reconstruct and nourish the sensus fidei. We do not delude ourselves that we are going to change the institutional situation of the Church; our action is at the level of the Catholic world, of those who, among Catholics, are still close enough to Tradition, to strengthen precisely this sensus fidei and to create, through these encounters, a network, a convergence of ideas , thought and spirit, this cor unum and anima una that has always characterized authentically Catholic communities. [...] This is an indispensable condition so that the doctrine can find a concrete application in reality.
"This meeting," concludes the teacher of Mattei, "is an ideal continuation of the Correctio filialis. Be certain, it will not be the last: others will follow. "
This day of study and profession of faith ended with the blessing given by Bishop Marco Agostini, official of the Secretary of State and pontifical ceremonial, present at the congress.
-Abbot Angelo Citati
[All emphasis in this citation - reproduced from here.]
source: FSSPX news (official website of the FSSPX)