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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 6:38:32 GMT
So not to be abrupt without saying some farwell, I have come to know many friends through the years helping others to love God as He is, as with, fighting for His rights in the trenches against the evil tree of modernism. So many of you are edifying and a stellar example. So its time for me to continue on into other apostolates. This will be my third attempt at retiring from anything internet. The first time was (I think) in early 2015 knowing the neo-sspx was gone to conciliar rome with no return back. Which is still true today; they have changed their Doctrine, Morals, Administration and Statues into conciliarism. See here thecatacombs.org/thread/718/conciliar-sspx-topic
Then hoping the weakness of Bishop Williamson would sure himself at some point to help in the vineyard...until he obstinately manifested in July 2015 (and still today) his open acceptance of modernism while setting a heavy hand of dulpicity upon priests and anyone who attaches themselves with him. So I stayed longer to help fight that onslaught. See here thecatacombs.org/thread/719/false-resistance-topic until last year when I was preparing to get off the internet again.
Then came this excellent new forum TheCatacombs where the administrator and a few others were serious to work in the apostolate to help the Church in this crisis. I stayed on...with hope to write about the acts of the Catechism and its life through apologetics within this crisis. See here and other places on this forum with the help of others thecatacombs.org/board/84/catholic-answers-crisis
Then came the virulent covert playbook of the socialist catholics, so I call them, who happen to be the worst. They were the closest to the tree of tradition knowing the ins and out, and who are now the more angry and violent operating in stealth and closeness of truth. They know the words and instruments of the fight and use them with some intellectual coy. Yet, one can still see through its fake mask; so God allows for those who seek. As much as they act like pharisees distorting the revelation of God, our Lord said the cockle will always be with us to sanctify the wheat as a tempest to the field within the Church.
The harvest is great says our Lord. With TheCatacombs in good hands, I am going to spend more of my time back to the streets and byways where I love the most; one on one. Trying to help fallen away catholics and pagans find our Lord and the beauty of His Father he orated so well; especially on the love of His Cross.
So I am retiring and logging off from anything internet to focus on other duties and return to the apostolate as a servant on the streets calling out for our Lord's marriage feast to be in the hearts of men.
God bless you all.
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Post by Admin on Oct 2, 2018 11:58:59 GMT
The Catacombs is grateful for your time here, Machabees. We heartily wish you all the best in your new apostolate.
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Post by susannah on Oct 2, 2018 12:28:00 GMT
God bless you, Machabees, and thank you for everything.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 12:41:10 GMT
Machabees, before you depart, please answer my question:
Where in my website post did I state that the SSPX-mc priests (i.e., Kentucky Fathers) accept the errors of Bishop Williamson in order to receive the sacraments from him?
You accused me of this, so where is the evidence?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 14:16:19 GMT
EM, Machabees is done! Period! Let it alone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 14:18:38 GMT
God bless Machabees. And may He be with you in your apostolate of the streets.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 14:20:44 GMT
EM, Machabees is done! Period! Let it alone. So he should be allowed to just leave after writing something I did not write, and especially after throwing insults left and right and attributing bad motives? Where is the honour in that?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 14:21:28 GMT
God bless Machabees. And may He be with you in your apostolate of the streets. I hope he doesn't treat some of those on the streets as he treated some of us on the forums.
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Post by Admin on Oct 2, 2018 14:58:21 GMT
EM, Machabees is done! Period! Let it alone. So he should be allowed to just leave after writing something I did not write, and especially after throwing insults left and right and attributing bad motives? Where is the honour in that?
EM,
You know that no one is forced to stay here nor is anyone not allowed to leave. Machabees has indeed deleted his account and cannot reply any longer here.
God bless.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 14:59:01 GMT
Thanks machabees for everything. God bless you.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 15:05:57 GMT
ecclesia militans_ He already answered you many times. So stop the artificial ruse.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 15:08:03 GMT
So he should be allowed to just leave after writing something I did not write, and especially after throwing insults left and right and attributing bad motives? Where is the honour in that?
EM,
You know that no one is forced to stay here nor is anyone not allowed to leave. Machabees has indeed deleted his account and cannot reply any longer here.
God bless.
Of course, I did not mean that literally. I must be honest. In a way I am glad he is gone. I found his posts to be confusing and not clearly stated and he defended the Kentucky Fathers no matter what issue. And when someone disagreed with him, he would sometimes insult and attribute bad motives as he did to me. Nevertheless, I wish him well.
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Post by Admin on Oct 2, 2018 15:26:18 GMT
EM,
You know that no one is forced to stay here nor is anyone not allowed to leave. Machabees has indeed deleted his account and cannot reply any longer here.
God bless.
Of course, I did not mean that literally. I must be honest. In a way I am glad he is gone. I found his posts to be confusing and not clearly stated and he defended the Kentucky Fathers no matter what issue. And when someone disagreed with him, he would sometimes insult and attribute bad motives as he did to me. Nevertheless, I wish him well. While the well-wishes for Machabees are appreciated, please do pass over in silence any feelings of personal animosity.
Again, we all wish Machabees the best in his future endeavors.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 15:53:13 GMT
ecclesia militans_ He already answer you many times. So stop the artificial ruse.
Okay, here is what Machabees alleged that I wrote (not by directly quoting me) in my website post: "The SSPX-mc priests accept the errors of Bishop Williamson to confer service from him and/or other bishops".Most people reading this would understand this to mean that the Kentucky Fathers positively and deliberately accept the errors of Bishop Williamson so that Bishop Williamson would administer the sacraments for them. Therefore, it would be a deliberate compromise on the Kentucky Fathers' part. I made clear to Machabees that this was my understanding of his statement (which I originally attributed as his quoting me) when I wrote the following ( thecatacombs.org/post/2960/thread): "This is false. I did not write what he put in quotation marks. What I wrote is that the Kentucky Fathers wrote a letter in May 2018 asking Bishop Williamson to come administer the sacraments despite that fact that His Excellency teaches errors. I did not write that they accepts his errors in order to obtain the sacraments from him."Notice that I used the term "despite". After asking him to prove where in my website post I wrote what he alleged I wrote ( thecatacombs.org/post/2974/thread), he went back and edited a previous post to answer my request for proof (what he should have done is made a newer post). Here is Machabees' proof (http://thecatacombs.org/post/2973/thread): Ecclesia Militan's QUOTE:
...Furthermore, the Kentucky Fathers’ willingness to have Bishop Williamson come administer the sacraments is a variant of tradecumenism, which was also condemned by them (see here). Therefore, the question needs to be asked whether or not Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko are also part of the fake Resistance. Now this quote of mine on my website post when taken in conjunction with other statements on the same website post does not mean that the Kentucky Fathers' positively and deliberately accept the errors of Bishop Williamson so that Bishop Williamson would administer the sacraments for them. Here is the ending of my website post: "In my communications with Fr. Rafael, O.S.B., regarding this matter, he stated that Fr. Pfeiffer should not set aside doctrine for the sake of the sacraments and should be willing to lose each and every seminarian rather than compromise with the fake Resistance or questionably valid bishops." Note that I stated "set aside doctrine", that is, not requiring Bishop Williamson's retraction of his errors. Therefore, understanding this, the quote above by Machabees of me and its relation to tradecumenism is that tradecumenism is an EFFECT of the Kentucky Fathers' actions. I do not accuse the Kentucky Fathers' of positively and deliberately ACCEPTING tradecumenism or any other of Bishop Williamson's errors. Instead of accepting my objection (which should have clarified any misunderstanding on his part), Machabees doubled down on his original statement, which caused me to ask him to prove his statement.
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Post by ajnc on Oct 2, 2018 15:57:16 GMT
In one of the posts of Machabees vs EM the question of intention cropped. In a sacrament the minister must intend to do what the Church does. The Conciliar Church does not do what the pre-Vatican II Catholic Church did so I wonder how those Indult Masses even with validly ordained priests be valid?. All the Sacraments have been tampered with. How can we compare the NOM to the TLM when these belong to different Churches?
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