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Post by Admin on Feb 3, 2019 16:54:48 GMT
Posted by hermenegild Hermenegild now we know the answer to your question how he will be utilized at OLMC...with him on altar last night and today at OLMC.
Sermon Father Poisson First Friday February 1, 2019 posted
and Taking Of The Cassock February 2, 2019.
I think this situation needs some clarification from OLMC. If, as all the evidence points to, Ambrose - once a Catholic priest - received episcopal orders from the Orthodox, he incurred an automatic excommunication, reserved to the Holy See to absolve.
Fr. Hewko recently said in his sermon from one week ago [January 27, 2019]:
With respect to Fr. Poisson's situation, it appears we can apply what Fr. Pfeiffer noted in his second conference in November [2018]:
If Fr. Poisson, clearly in good faith, received reordination at the hands of Ambrose in July, it appears he shouldn't exercise his orders until his canonical situation is rectified, if we understand correctly what Fr. Pfeiffer is relating to us in that conference regarding the canon law?
The exact wording of the Canon Law Fr. Pfeiffer is referring to is as follows: I know many assumed that Fr. Poisson would return to the situation he was in before the 'reordination', that is, that he would say private Masses at OLMC and teach classes in the seminary. So it's not yet clear how Fr. Poisson can continue to be on the OLMC Mass circuits. It would seem that we would benefit from Fr. Pfeiffer explaining and putting Fr. Poisson's situation into context, so we can understand how we should approach Fr. Poisson at this time. And most of all, let us keep Fr. Poisson in our prayers! His intentions are certainly good.
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Post by peterd on Feb 3, 2019 17:27:19 GMT
And it appears that another split in the resistance has happened. Fr. Hewko is nowhere to be found.
"And I myself also, my brethren, am assured of you, that you also are full of love, replenished with all knowledge, so that you are able to admonish one another." [Romans 15:14]
"Confess therefore your sins one to another: and pray one for another, that you may be saved. For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much." [James 5:16]
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Post by Admin on Feb 3, 2019 19:29:26 GMT
And it appears that another split in the resistance has happened. Fr. Hewko is nowhere to be found.
"And I myself also, my brethren, am assured of you, that you also are full of love, replenished with all knowledge, so that you are able to admonish one another." [Romans 15:14]
"Confess therefore your sins one to another: and pray one for another, that you may be saved. For the continual prayer of a just man availeth much." [James 5:16]
This was posted on Facebook: Resistance Mass tomorrow morning Sunday 2/3/19 at 10 am at 🏠8250 Honey Brook Court Corona, CA 92880 Officiated by Fr. David Hewko Followed by a 🍇 potluck 🥪 Please join us 😃
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Post by peterd on Feb 4, 2019 17:14:48 GMT
Public sins require public repentance to turn a Nation back to God. Say there is no sin and stay in punishment.
(Ecclesiastes 49:3) " He was directed by God unto the repentance of the nation, and he took away the abominations of wickedness. And he directed his heart towards the Lord, and in the days of sinners he strengthened godliness. Except David, and Ezechias, and Josias, all committed sin. For the kings of Juda forsook the law of the most High, and despised the fear of God. So they gave their kingdom to others, and their glory to a strange nation. They burnt the chosen city of holiness, and made the streets thereof desolate according to the prediction of Jeremias. For they treated him evil, who was consecrated a prophet from his mother's womb, to overthrow, and pluck up, and destroy, and to build again, and renew. It was Ezechiel that saw the glorious vision, which was shewn him upon the chariot of cherubims."
Actions are what brings God's graces upon Our Lord's Earthly Kingdom and Church.
"If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not." [John 10:37]
What is God saying to OLMC through material observable actions?
They have a public ceremony to create priests for His Kindgom and Fr. Hewko is doing something else at another location. What are the people of His Nation supposed to think and do?
"Now when Mardochai had heard these things, he rent his garments, and put on sackcloth, strewing ashes on his head: and he cried with a loud voice in the street in the midst of the city, shewing the anguish of his mind. And he came lamenting in this manner even to the gate of the palace: for no one clothed with sackcloth might enter the king's court. And in all provinces, towns, and places, to which the king's cruel edict was come, there was great mourning among the Jews, with fasting, wailing, and weeping, many using sackcloth and ashes for their bed." (Book of Esther 4:1)
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Post by littleflower on Feb 4, 2019 23:13:40 GMT
Public sins require public repentance to turn a Nation back to God. Say there is no sin and stay in punishment.
(Ecclesiastes 49:3) " He was directed by God unto the repentance of the nation, and he took away the abominations of wickedness. And he directed his heart towards the Lord, and in the days of sinners he strengthened godliness. Except David, and Ezechias, and Josias, all committed sin. For the kings of Juda forsook the law of the most High, and despised the fear of God. So they gave their kingdom to others, and their glory to a strange nation. They burnt the chosen city of holiness, and made the streets thereof desolate according to the prediction of Jeremias. For they treated him evil, who was consecrated a prophet from his mother's womb, to overthrow, and pluck up, and destroy, and to build again, and renew. It was Ezechiel that saw the glorious vision, which was shewn him upon the chariot of cherubims."
Actions are what brings God's graces upon Our Lord's Earthly Kingdom and Church.
"If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not." [John 10:37]
What is God saying to OLMC through material observable actions?
They have a public ceremony to create priests for His Kindgom and Fr. Hewko is doing something else at another location. What are the people of His Nation supposed to think and do?
"Now when Mardochai had heard these things, he rent his garments, and put on sackcloth, strewing ashes on his head: and he cried with a loud voice in the street in the midst of the city, shewing the anguish of his mind. And he came lamenting in this manner even to the gate of the palace: for no one clothed with sackcloth might enter the king's court. And in all provinces, towns, and places, to which the king's cruel edict was come, there was great mourning among the Jews, with fasting, wailing, and weeping, many using sackcloth and ashes for their bed." (Book of Esther 4:1)
peterd, are you suggesting that like Mardochai, we all rent our garments, put on sackcloth, strew ashes on our heads, and cry out with a loud voice in the street in the midst of the city, shewing the anguish of our minds? Where shall we buy the sackcloths and ashes from? Amazon.com or Walmart.com?
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Post by S.A.G. on Feb 5, 2019 1:06:16 GMT
Little Flower,
If you would like some additional clarity or context from a member about a post they made, please do so in a more straightforward manner, without the mockery.
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Post by stpaul on Feb 5, 2019 14:05:50 GMT
Public sins require public repentance to turn a Nation back to God. Say there is no sin and stay in punishment.
(Ecclesiastes 49:3) " He was directed by God unto the repentance of the nation, and he took away the abominations of wickedness. And he directed his heart towards the Lord, and in the days of sinners he strengthened godliness. Except David, and Ezechias, and Josias, all committed sin. For the kings of Juda forsook the law of the most High, and despised the fear of God. So they gave their kingdom to others, and their glory to a strange nation. They burnt the chosen city of holiness, and made the streets thereof desolate according to the prediction of Jeremias. For they treated him evil, who was consecrated a prophet from his mother's womb, to overthrow, and pluck up, and destroy, and to build again, and renew. It was Ezechiel that saw the glorious vision, which was shewn him upon the chariot of cherubims."
Actions are what brings God's graces upon Our Lord's Earthly Kingdom and Church.
"If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not." [John 10:37]
What is God saying to OLMC through material observable actions?
They have a public ceremony to create priests for His Kindgom and Fr. Hewko is doing something else at another location. What are the people of His Nation supposed to think and do?
"Now when Mardochai had heard these things, he rent his garments, and put on sackcloth, strewing ashes on his head: and he cried with a loud voice in the street in the midst of the city, shewing the anguish of his mind. And he came lamenting in this manner even to the gate of the palace: for no one clothed with sackcloth might enter the king's court. And in all provinces, towns, and places, to which the king's cruel edict was come, there was great mourning among the Jews, with fasting, wailing, and weeping, many using sackcloth and ashes for their bed." (Book of Esther 4:1)
I pray for him too, but I have no sympathy. Ignorance is a sin in a Priest.
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2019 14:11:08 GMT
Public sins require public repentance to turn a Nation back to God. Say there is no sin and stay in punishment.
(Ecclesiastes 49:3) " He was directed by God unto the repentance of the nation, and he took away the abominations of wickedness. And he directed his heart towards the Lord, and in the days of sinners he strengthened godliness. Except David, and Ezechias, and Josias, all committed sin. For the kings of Juda forsook the law of the most High, and despised the fear of God. So they gave their kingdom to others, and their glory to a strange nation. They burnt the chosen city of holiness, and made the streets thereof desolate according to the prediction of Jeremias. For they treated him evil, who was consecrated a prophet from his mother's womb, to overthrow, and pluck up, and destroy, and to build again, and renew. It was Ezechiel that saw the glorious vision, which was shewn him upon the chariot of cherubims."
Actions are what brings God's graces upon Our Lord's Earthly Kingdom and Church.
"If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not." [John 10:37]
What is God saying to OLMC through material observable actions?
They have a public ceremony to create priests for His Kindgom and Fr. Hewko is doing something else at another location. What are the people of His Nation supposed to think and do?
"Now when Mardochai had heard these things, he rent his garments, and put on sackcloth, strewing ashes on his head: and he cried with a loud voice in the street in the midst of the city, shewing the anguish of his mind. And he came lamenting in this manner even to the gate of the palace: for no one clothed with sackcloth might enter the king's court. And in all provinces, towns, and places, to which the king's cruel edict was come, there was great mourning among the Jews, with fasting, wailing, and weeping, many using sackcloth and ashes for their bed." (Book of Esther 4:1)
If the public ceremony you are referring to was the 'Taking of the Cassock' on February 2nd, its a step towards the priesthood but it was not to ordain/create priests per se.
And only Fr. Hewko can speak to why he was not present.
The very minimum we can do is to pray for the priests, pray for each other, that we all are found faithful to the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic Church. It is no easy thing, with confusion reigning supreme. Our refuge is in prayer, especially the Rosary and the Scapular. Our Lady, Help of Christians, pray for us.
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2019 14:21:55 GMT
Public sins require public repentance to turn a Nation back to God. Say there is no sin and stay in punishment.
(Ecclesiastes 49:3) " He was directed by God unto the repentance of the nation, and he took away the abominations of wickedness. And he directed his heart towards the Lord, and in the days of sinners he strengthened godliness. Except David, and Ezechias, and Josias, all committed sin. For the kings of Juda forsook the law of the most High, and despised the fear of God. So they gave their kingdom to others, and their glory to a strange nation. They burnt the chosen city of holiness, and made the streets thereof desolate according to the prediction of Jeremias. For they treated him evil, who was consecrated a prophet from his mother's womb, to overthrow, and pluck up, and destroy, and to build again, and renew. It was Ezechiel that saw the glorious vision, which was shewn him upon the chariot of cherubims."
Actions are what brings God's graces upon Our Lord's Earthly Kingdom and Church.
"If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not." [John 10:37]
What is God saying to OLMC through material observable actions?
They have a public ceremony to create priests for His Kindgom and Fr. Hewko is doing something else at another location. What are the people of His Nation supposed to think and do?
"Now when Mardochai had heard these things, he rent his garments, and put on sackcloth, strewing ashes on his head: and he cried with a loud voice in the street in the midst of the city, shewing the anguish of his mind. And he came lamenting in this manner even to the gate of the palace: for no one clothed with sackcloth might enter the king's court. And in all provinces, towns, and places, to which the king's cruel edict was come, there was great mourning among the Jews, with fasting, wailing, and weeping, many using sackcloth and ashes for their bed." (Book of Esther 4:1)
I pray for him too, but I have no sympathy. Ignorance is a sin in a Priest. St.Paul, Please be aware that while we are in troubled times, they cannot be used as excuse for a lack of charity. As you are new here, we heartily welcome you! But please be aware of the rules of the forum concerning charity in one's posts. None of us are in a position to know the degree of 'ignorance' of another. Pascendi tells us that we must "leav[e] out of account the internal disposition of the soul, of which God alone is the Judge".
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Post by stpaul on Feb 5, 2019 14:26:31 GMT
I pray for him too, but I have no sympathy. Ignorance is a sin in a Priest. St.Paul, Please be aware that while we are in troubled times, they cannot be used as excuse for a lack of charity. As you are new here, we heartily welcome you! But please be aware of the rules of the forum concerning charity in one's posts. None of us are in a position to know the degree of 'ignorance' of another. Pascendi tells us that we must "leav[e] out of account the internal disposition of the soul, of which God alone is the Judge". I am not judging his soul, I am stating a fact.
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2019 15:01:44 GMT
St.Paul, Please be aware that while we are in troubled times, they cannot be used as excuse for a lack of charity. As you are new here, we heartily welcome you! But please be aware of the rules of the forum concerning charity in one's posts. None of us are in a position to know the degree of 'ignorance' of another. Pascendi tells us that we must "leav[e] out of account the internal disposition of the soul, of which God alone is the Judge". I am not judging his soul, I am stating a fact. Let us keep focused on the Faith, rather than on worrying about the sins, factual or otherwise, of others. Let us continue to pray especially for all the priests.
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