A new Bishop for the SSPX

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A new Bishop for the SSPX Jan 24, 2019 15:33:00 GMT

Post by Admin on Jan 24, 2019 15:33:00 GMT

Papally Approved? Unexpectedly, a New Bishop for the Society of Saint Pius X

Adapted from Rorate Caeli:

Just a couple of weeks ago, Rorate posted an analysis of Pope Francis' moves regarding the Society of Saint Pius X (FSSPX / SSPX): The Vatican and the SSPX - Prospects for 2019. In it, our guest contributor revealed that the Pope and the SSPX are fast reaching a full regularization, but "by installments".

Along with the abolition of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei, signed on January 17, and that also signals a path of "regularization by installments" of the SSPX, another piece of news dated from that same day also made clear what is going on.

From French magazine Monde & Vie:

SSPX school Institut Sancta Maria, Wangs, Switzerland

A New Bishop for the SSPX

It has been several months that Bp. [Vitus] Huonder, bishop of Chur (Switzerland), indicated his will to live out his retirement with the Society of Saint Pius X. This time, it's official. Bp. Huonder, considered a conservative, is not only a friend of the SSPX, but close to Pope Francis, who had refused his resignation in 2017. In other words, one can live out one's retirement with the SSPX as with any other religious congregation! According to our information, Bp. Huonder would live in retirement in a school kept by the Society in Switzerland. In short, an example of this "statute by installments" enjoyed by the Society. With the agreement of the Pope of the peripheries. There it is, an additional evidence of the regularization of the SSPX. [Monde & Vie, January 17, 2019, n. 965, p. 19]

Bishop Huonder is 76, and has wished to retire for some time -- his large diocese includes the largest city in Switzerland, Zurich, and his conservative views are not very popular with many of the more influential members of his flock.

Le Salon Beige reveals, and Rorate's sources confirm, that the school in which Bp. Vitus Huonder will live when he retires is the Institut Sancta Maria, a boarding school for boys in Wangs, in the St-Gallen canton. Le Salon Beige confirms that, of course, the pope is well informed of Bishop Huonder's choice, and tacitly approves of it.

(via Le Salon Beige)

"So let us be confident, let us not be unprepared, let us not be outflanked, let us be wise, vigilant, fighting against those who are trying to tear the faith out of our souls and morality out of our hearts, so that we may remain Catholics, remain united to the Blessed Virgin Mary, remain united to the Roman Catholic Church, remain faithful children of the Church."- Archbp. Lefebvre 1980

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A new Bishop for the SSPX Jan 24, 2019 15:40:02 GMT

Post by Admin on Jan 24, 2019 15:40:02 GMT

Adapted from here.

A NEW BISHOP (CONCILIAR) FOR THE FSSPX

"It is evident that Monsignor Huonder does not leave with a dissident spirit and that the Pope has supported his project." This announcement does nothing more than corroborate the movement of normalization of the Fraternity of St. Pius X that began twenty years ago and is now almost fully approved since the Pope granted the sacramental jurisdiction for the sacraments administered by the Fraternity of Saint Pius X in recent years. "

Le Salon Beige

He announced it to the priests of his diocese during the summer of last year: Bishop Vitus Huonder, current bishop of Chur, made the decision to settle at the end of his term in one of the centers of the Society of Saint Pius X, namely , in the Institute of Santa Maria de Wangs (Switzerland), a school that he knows very well and has visited on numerous occasions.

Is this symbolic? For the Cathedral Chapter of Chur chose Bishop Huonder on the eve of the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum on July 6, 2007. His appointment was confirmed by Benedict XVI the following day. In 2015, Bishop Huonder was one of the prelates who participated in the discussions with the Fraternity of Saint Pius X, visiting some of his seminars. He was able to appreciate the role that this community played in the promotion of the traditional liturgy and spirit. Two years later, having reached the age limit, he submitted his resignation to Pope Francis, who decided to extend his term for another two years.

It is evident that Bishop Huonder does not leave with a dissident spirit and that the Pope has supported his project. This announcement does nothing more than corroborate the movement of normalization of the Fraternity of St. Pius X that began twenty years ago and which is now almost fully approved since the Pope granted the sacramental jurisdiction for the sacraments administered by the Fraternity of St. Pius X in the last years.

Just rumors? Appointment of the interview with Father de Jorna, superior of the District of France of the SSPX, published on January 19, 2019:

It is said that Mons. Huonder, bishop of Coira, Switzerland, friend of the Society of St. Pius X but also close to Pope Francis , will retire to a school run by the Fraternity in Switzerland, with the approval of the Pope. So, is it officially possible to take your retreat within the Fraternity, as in any other congregation?

P. de Jorna: Indeed, Msgr. Huonder has said a lot about this project. But he is still at the head of his diocese. Realization is therefore for the future and only God knows it.

How can someone say "friend of the FSSPX and close to Francisco" ? Suppressing in his life the principle of contradiction, according to the liberals. An enlightening fact: in 2015, this bishop made some correct statements about sodomy, but in response to the reaction of homosexual groups, he ended up apologizing "especially to people of homosexual sensitivity" (see here ) . Monsignor Lefebvre would have accepted that a character of this profile would join his congregation? Never. But the Neo-FSSPX, in order to achieve the long-awaited "regularization", is willing - judging by the response of P. de Jorna - to be infiltrated by "conservatives" (liberals and moderate modernists) friends of the devastating Francisco,.

Particularly interesting quote: "Monsignor Huonder does not leave [to the SSPX] with a dissident spirit and that the Pope has supported his project." one) This means, simply, that the SSPX is no longer viewed as a dissident group with respect to revolutionary and apostate Rome. Very serious. 2) That the most scandalous and most openly liberal and modernist pope in history approves the idea, enough and enough to form a judgment about it.

To clear any doubt and in case some dreamer expects Mons. Huonder to abandon liberalism to join a fraternity on the warpath with liberal, modernist and apostate Rome - as Mons. Lazo did years ago - keep in mind that in the preface to the 2019 diocesan calendar, sent to all priests and pastoral agents, Bishop Huonder reminds them that " all roads lead to Rome ".

" We are Catholics when we are bound by the visible principle of unity with the successor of Peter, not only emotionally, but also and especially in faith ... I want our diocese to remain always united in faith, liturgy and discipline as the living cell of the organism that is the Church "(Source)

"So let us be confident, let us not be unprepared, let us not be outflanked, let us be wise, vigilant, fighting against those who are trying to tear the faith out of our souls and morality out of our hearts, so that we may remain Catholics, remain united to the Blessed Virgin Mary, remain united to the Roman Catholic Church, remain faithful children of the Church."- Archbp. Lefebvre 1980

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A new Bishop for the SSPX Mar 26, 2019 20:22:57 GMT

Post by Elizabeth on Mar 26, 2019 20:22:57 GMT

Taken from this link.

The original French version follows.

FSSPX

     Confidential note of the General House
     Broadcasting: members priests
     Date: June 5, 2015

     Note on a meeting of members of the FSSPX with Bishop Vitus Huonder.

     On April 17, 2015, the announced meeting between members of the FSSPX and Bishop VH ob took place. of Chur. In this meeting, which took place in French at the priory of Oberriet, were present Mons. VH, Bishop B. Fellay, Fathers Niklaus Pluger and A-M Nély, Mons. A. de Galarreta, Fathers M. Gaudron, JM. Gleize and Marc Jacot.
The theme of the meeting was the ecumenism of Vatican II.
Before tackling this issue, Bishop H. wanted to begin with a statement whose essential points are the following:
-The canonical integration of the SSPX is a great concern of Msgr. H.

     -A canonical status is a necessity. Without this status, the influence of the SSPX is minimal because it is marginalized. The conservative bishops want this canonical regularization, without which everyone is against the SSPX.
     -Mons. H. thinks that the SSPX does not want the schism. Respect for the authority that has always preserved, proves it.
     -The Magisterium must listen to the criticisms and conclusions of the theologians, including those of the SSPX, in a spirit of reciprocal respect. The Magisterium must also see if evolution from Vatican II is in conformity with Tradition.
     -The suppression of excommunication and the Summorum Pontificum are signs of goodwill on the part of Rome.
     -An agreement with Rome would be a support for the Superior General and for the apostolic work of the SSPX: it would give him the right to request explanations from the Magisterium.
     -The Church needs the SSPX for a new evangelization.
     -After a possible recognition, the theological issues must continue to be addressed to find solutions.

     After this statement by Bishop H., the members of the FSSPX expressed the following points:

     -The bottom line is: Is there a problem of faith and doctrine in Vatican II and its reforms? This is the first fundamental question.
     - In fact, there is a problem of faith and our canonical situation is only a consequence of this fundamental problem and of the situation of the Church.
     -If there was canonical recognition, we should be free to denounce errors, this is impossible in particular, because we would continue to preach against errors and even against the Pope when he propagates these errors.
     -Roma has led other traditional communities to silence. The Congregation of Religious is against Tradition: if there is an agreement, it would be the same for us.
     - A public criticism of the errors of the Council is necessary. It is not about being silent about the problems of faith.
     -Mons. Lefebvre said: that we are accepted as we are. This is a sine qua non condition. But they want to make us change our spirit, so we say no.

     The problem of Vatican II ecumenism was addressed below

     Is there a satisfactory official interpretation of the subsistit in Dominus Jesus ? We are talking about a presence of the Church in other churches. The Holy Spirit uses other communities. Now, Pius XII says that it is necessary to distinguish between people and communities: people outside the visible Church can receive graces, but not the communities as long as they are, in principle, separated from the Church.
     -As proof, the current Pope explains ecumenism always in a false sense, forgetting the Catholic unity that already exists, and speaking of "the unity that must be found".
     -What is the cause of this? The decadence of Catholic theology. In the past, theology used clear terms and concepts, those of scholasticism; today it is vague, based on modern philosophies.
     -The separate churches are called "means of salvation" as such, which is false.
     - No. 11 of Unitatis redintegratio says that we must "preach the truth", but after that there is a trap: we speak of common elements and then of "hierarchy of truths". This leads, in fact, to a false distinction between "essential truths", necessary for salvation, and "accessory truths", not necessary for salvation.
     - In Unitatis redintegratio , the Church is called "the general means of salvation", and no longer "necessary means for salvation".

     Bishop H., in the course of this discussion, stated that he agreed with these objections: "The Council was very imprecise, we must clarify all that." "For me, ecumenism aims at conversion, without which it has no reason to be." He also admitted: "There are many things to change in the code."

Mons. H. will transmit the dubia to Rome of the FSSPX on ecumenism prepared by Father Gleize for this meeting.

Confidential note that should not be distributed under any pretext; the General House will take care of it if necessary.

Last Edit: Mar 26, 2019 20:44:48 GMT by Elizabeth

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A new Bishop for the SSPX Apr 6, 2019 19:29:46 GMT

Post by Admin on Apr 6, 2019 19:29:46 GMT

According to Bishop Williamson's Eleison Comments dated April 6, 2019, the retirement of the (Conciliar) Bishop Vitus Huonder to an SSPX school in Switzerland has been changed:

CHANGE OF PLANS IN RESPECT OF BISHOP HUONDER: COMMENTARY ELEISON Number DCXII (612), April 06, 2019

Eleison Comments by His Excellency Bishop Richard Williamson

Retired Invitation

Oh, Big Bad Wolf, you have beautiful teeth!
Or not! Or not! I'm afraid of what's underneath!

Bishop Vitus Huonder, still bishop of the great diocese of Chur, in eastern Switzerland, which includes Zurich, will not reside in the boys' school of the Society of St. Pius X in Wangs when he retires at the end of this month. In January, his diocesan spokesman had announced that the bishop was going to the school on behalf of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in Rome, in order to maintain contact between Rome and the Fraternity, but last month the bishop himself He announced that after all he would not retire to the fraternity school in Wangs. And so the friendly meeting between the Bishop of Rome and the School of the Fraternity was suspended. Was it Rome, or the Fraternity, or both, that repented at the last moment? We do not know. It's not important. What matters is to see clearly the endless conflict between the reality of God and the false dreams of men, to prefer the reality of God.

In this case the reality of God is that his Catholic Church and the conciliar revolution of ecclesiastics can never be mixed, while the dream of ecclesiastics is that they can. But God puts God before men, while the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965) puts men before God. The two positions are as irreconcilable as Jesus Christ and Satan. From eternity, our Lord, goodness itself, can only reject evil. Since Satan fell right after his creation, he has been set on evil and can only hate God, and His divine Son, and the true Church of His Son. And men are divided between the two from conception to death, because they receive from God their basic human nature and possibly the sanctifying grace that inclines them to God, while since the Fall of Adam their nature is wounded by the original sin that He inclines them to Satan and evil. No living man can avoid this conflict. Either he advances in good and he becomes less evil, or he withdraws from goodness sinking into evil.

Therefore, if Bishop Huonder, the conciliar bishop, had moved to the traditional Catholic school of Wangs, one of two things would have happened. Either he made the school less traditional, or the school made him more Catholic. So if his residence in Wangs has been canceled, either Rome feared he would become more Catholic, which is not likely because Msgr. Huonder is a crusader typical of the Neo-Church of Rome, or because the Neo-Fraternity changed opinion, and instead of installing the wolf conciliar in his fold of Wangs, decided to exclude him, after his previous decision to install it. Why the change of opinion?

There are two possible explanations. Or by virtue of the Neo-Fraternity, which, at least for a moment, stopped dreaming that the wolves were good; or, by necessity, she was forced to delay the latter's welcome, due to two additional revelations of the wolf's fierceness. On the one hand, the details of a discreet meeting held four years ago in Oberriet, Switzerland [see above post], between Bishop Huonder and Bishops Fellay and Galarreta with five other priests of the SSPX, to discuss the ecumenism of Vatican II were revealed. MH started with a position that can be summarized as "Agreement first, doctrine afterwards", which is typical of a conciliarist. The bishops and priests of the SSPX responded by putting forward the Catholic doctrine on ecumenism, in a manner worthy of Bishop Lefebvre. MH concluded with the promise to bring to Rome the objections of the SSPX on conciliar ecumenism. But the Romans know these objections to the letter. In short, MH's arguments show that he has been a faithful servant of conciliar Rome. On the other hand, the details of the extensive work of MH within the Neo-Church, especially from 2011, came to light in the name of the official friendship between the Catholic Church and the Jews. Once again, this attitude is typical of a conciliarist innocently or deliberately ignorant of almost 2,000 years of constant - and proud - hatred of the Jews towards the Church.

So these two revelations showed that MH was imbued with the spirit of the Council, a potentially dangerous resident of a house of the SSPX. The true Fraternity would not invite him again. But the Neo-Fraternity could wait for the traditionalists to become soft enough to accept that conciliarism in their bosom.

Kyrie eleison.

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[Emphasis - The Catacombs]

"So let us be confident, let us not be unprepared, let us not be outflanked, let us be wise, vigilant, fighting against those who are trying to tear the faith out of our souls and morality out of our hearts, so that we may remain Catholics, remain united to the Blessed Virgin Mary, remain united to the Roman Catholic Church, remain faithful children of the Church."- Archbp. Lefebvre 1980