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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 22:30:54 GMT
Do they think we are dumb. That sspx priest looks like he is standing there like a punished kid by the blapheme ordinary rite.
How can the sspx say they did the marriage when they are stand off? If this is the standard, expect more.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 13:03:50 GMT
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Post by Deus Vult on Mar 27, 2018 13:27:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 16:59:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 19:15:39 GMT
Remembering the confusion is not on Catholic Principles and the Faith itself, the confusion is based on the thinking of the conciliarists and new-SSPX formally attaching itself to its neo-tradition and deceitfully calling it "traditional". Its not! Is wasn't when the conciliar Ecclesia Dei tries this trick in their pods FSSP, Institute of Good Shepherd, and others. It never will be! This is pure modernism thru and thru. One cannot pick and choose when there is a state of necessity. Either there is objectively or this is not. The practical application of this attachment for the new-sspx to conciliar rome goes even more bizarre. What happens with the SSPX annulment tribunal to protect the sacrament of marriage? Does that now go away. Recall, the letter of the pope stated the authority of the sspx marriages is with the Diocesan bishop. So it is now the Diocesan bishop's responsibility before the marriage and after for the couple. The SSPX no longer has the reason of State of Necessity to continue their need of the tribunal to protect the sacrament. They agreed to the document it is back to the local bishop. Thus, this opens the door for ecumenical thinking and bozo marriages inside the sspx chapels. Just more abuse, but now called "traditionally" accepted. (sic) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 19:34:33 GMT
How does the n-sspx help the couple with a purity of intention for marriage when they now allow for ecumenism in the sanctuary?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 19:46:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 20:07:43 GMT
The groom says;
"Although it is unfortunate that our marriage was used by some online to promote baseless speculation..." (emphasis mine)
They really have no clue, do they?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 21:15:48 GMT
With congratulations to the spouses and many blessings, it is with the respect and dignity of Christ's Marriage Sacrament and not with the disposition of the spouses, given their circumstances, we are having this conversation. The Groom had give us a thoughtful understanding of their intention, as a child of the Church we all share to remain Catholic. In needs to point out, however, the matter is raised on the confined Intention and Form of the authorities upon their people to legitimize the sacrament from the supplying Churchmen that is in question. It is sad the new-sspx is being juvenile with this situation to deflect their responsibility and have the Groom respond, the best he is able from the instruction of the new-sspx pulpit. The Bride and Groom had NO choice under the new Mandate from modern Rome Bishop Fellay accepted. ALL of the new-sspx marriages are under the control of conciliarism regardless where it is held: novus ordo church or the sspx chapel. The new A Clarification on a Manitoba Wedding coming from the Canadian SSPX Media is from the District house -through Menzingen. It is noticed their own introduction is based with an acknowledgment there is a "controversy"; they said so. If there is, then why discount our pleas for the transparency of the new-sspx intent, political as it is. If there wasn't a controversy, then stop beating around the bush and clarify the duplicity for the last 6-years. So the narration needs to return back to its principle of the expression for the faith, central to this conversation. By what faith does the new-sspx operate when they accept all of the conciliar decrees and all of the conciliarists agendas? Let's be honest, it is all about neo-traditon Menzingen wants and hides this fact to its people. But God sees... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 15:46:35 GMT
What is explicitly clear in this whole situation and crisis is the new-sspx is dropping the ball on the integrity of the Sacrament of Marriage for their own ends.
Marriage is the first sacrament God gave in Genesis to Adam and Eve for the integral order and relationship to protect the Image and Likeness of God within the bond of a family. It is a sacrament of the Holy Trinity that resembles the Holy Trinity in its participation and ability to pro-create life. Marriage is the central cell to society, the nuclei, to function a nation. It is within the sacrament of Marriage that the Attributes of God are born and societies have order.
Marriage as a sacrament was also a Command of God to Govern, Teach, and Sanctify the family. Marriage is the bond so much described in Holy Scripture that shows the union of Christ and His Church. Marriage is a sacred bond and natural element and principle of a family. Marriage is the tree of life and the children are its fruit.
In Genesis there was only Two sacraments given to the Family of Adam and Eve, the first parents within the Garden of Eden: Marriage and Priesthood. When Adam and eve were created, they were created with Original Justice in the Image (soul) and Likeness (grace) of God. They both also had the four Preternatural Gifts [1] God gave to them within the incarnational union of grace with God.
When Adam and Eve sinned gravely, they lost the Likeness (grace) of God and those four gifts...never to return in this life; but the opportunity to prove themselves and the rest of the human race, to return the grace (likeness) of God.
In Original Justice they only needed as creatures the two sacraments of Marriage for the family and priesthood to give sacrifice to God in that Creator/creature relationship with ends to Worship, Petition, and give Thanksgiving to God (Atonement was not an element because there was not sin to atone).
After Adam and Eve's grave sin, there became a state of enmity between them and God. Sin is the void of God; as darkness is the void of light. Original sin then became the state of the human generation. Sin cause the Preternatural Gifts of God to be lost and brought with it: Disorder, Death, Ignorance, and Suffering.
In God's mercy and Justice, He provided five other Sacraments to help restore the fallen race to choose Him again to correct their sin and appease God: Baptism, Confession, Confirmation, Holy Eucharist, Extreme Unction. Each one of these sacraments help restore God's life of grace and restore an Integrity of Justice to Him and order in fallen society.
Understanding this fundamental relation of who God is and the gifts He offers requires an effort and measure to protect His Life and life of grace within souls and society.
This is why the Church has a process to protect the sacrament of Marriage and its ends with integrity of the Image and Likeness of God. It is a command and a right of God, His Church, and to those preparing Marriage. Marriage is a union with God that needs utmost intention and providing of purity and holiness. Marriage is the likeness and symbol of Christ and His Spouse the Church.
For the neo-sspx to seek selfish and political ends for their union with conciliar-Baal is an abhorrence by itself, and in consequence to leave God's sacrament of Marriage they once protected as a diplomacy to compromise is disgusting to God Most High.
When will the conversation return to God's rights and His Order?
These false shepherds are agents to the whisper of the serpent to foster another rebellion against God.
NO! Thou Shall Not...!
God is the only source of life, and through His Son this Holy Week, provides and restores that integral justice and order between the fallen souls of men...back to God. If we want it; and fight for it.
God is worth every effort we make. His Son, our Lord Jesus Christ made the ultimate sacrifice for us to restore us back to His Father, what will we do for Him?
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[1] Four Preternatural Gifts: Integrity, Immortality, Infused Knowledge, and Impassibility.
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Post by Admin on Mar 29, 2018 8:52:54 GMT
In needs to point out, however, the matter is raised on the confined Intention and Form of the authorities upon their people to legitimize the sacrament from the supplying Churchmen that is in question. It is sad the new-sspx is being juvenile with this situation to deflect their responsibility and have the Groom respond, the best he is able from the instruction of the new-sspx pulpit. The Bride and Groom had NO choice under the new Mandate from modern Rome Bishop Fellay accepted. ALL of the new-sspx marriages are under the control of conciliarism regardless where it is held: novus ordo church or the sspx chapel. The new A Clarification on a Manitoba Wedding coming from the Canadian SSPX Media is from the District house -through Menzingen. It is noticed their own introduction is based with an acknowledgment there is a "controversy"; they said so. If there is, then why discount our pleas for the transparency of the new-sspx intent, political as it is. If there wasn't a controversy, then stop beating around the bush and clarify the duplicity for the last 6-years. So the narration needs to return back to its principle of the expression for the faith, central to this conversation. By what faith does the new-sspx operate when they accept all of the conciliar decrees and all of the conciliarists agendas? Let's be honest, it is all about neo-traditon Menzingen wants and hides this fact to its people. But God sees... Isn't it interesting that the n-sspx leaves it up to a layperson (in this case, the groom) to 'clarify' such an important issue. The letter of clarification fully supports the new line of thinking of the sspx, for example here: How sad for this young couple. 'If it had been up to them, they would have had only their sspx priest marry them'. But it was clearly the sspx who TOLD them their marriage vows had to be officiated by a novus ordo priest and then guided them to such a priest. But where is the Society, themselves able to fully and articulately confront this 'controversy'? Why are they silent? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 16:34:45 GMT
Bishop Fellay said in his June 2017 SSPX Cor Unum this marriage orientation from rome MUST be accepted; and everything else from rome must be accepted to be faithful sons to the Church. (sic)
Notice also whenever Bishop Fellay speaks to accept modern rome's conciliarism, he always does so in the imperative negative using what "not" to do as the approach than the affirmative positive this is what we are going to do?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 15:37:15 GMT
Remembering the confusion is not on Catholic Principles and the Faith itself, the confusion is based on the thinking of the conciliarists and new-SSPX formally attaching itself to its neo-tradition and deceitfully calling it "traditional". Its not! Is wasn't when the conciliar Ecclesia Dei tries this trick in their pods FSSP, Institute of Good Shepherd, and others. It never will be! This is pure modernism thru and thru. One cannot pick and choose when there is a state of necessity. Either there is objectively or this is not. The practical application of this attachment for the new-sspx to conciliar rome goes even more bizarre. What happens with the SSPX annulment tribunal to protect the sacrament of marriage? Does that now go away. Recall, the letter of the pope stated the authority of the sspx marriages is with the Diocesan bishop. So it is now the Diocesan bishop's responsibility before the marriage and after for the couple. The SSPX no longer has the reason of State of Necessity to continue their need of the tribunal to protect the sacrament. They agreed to the document it is back to the local bishop.Thus, this opens the door for ecumenical thinking and bozo marriages inside the sspx chapels. Just more abuse, but now called "traditionally" accepted. (sic) Bishop Fellay still has not answered this real and serious question. The neo-sspx/rome agreement said the authority of the sspx marriages is now back with the novus ordo Diocesan bishop, thus, it is the Diocesan's responsibility for the marriage before and after. 1 - How does the neo-SSPX now prepare for the marriage and how does it DEFEND the marriage? 2 - Do they now manifest the 1983 Code of Canon law and the novus ordo catechism definition of marriage? 3 - So does this new agreement annul the SSPX Annulment tribunal? 4 - And, if there is a 'future' marriage case presented for investigation, does it now go through the novus ordo [cotton candy] annulment tribunal; the very reason the SSPX said they had to protect the marriage themselves in a State of Necessity? 5 - Clearly by this agreement, the neo-sspx declares their is no longer a State of Necessity. 6 - Being so, by what evidence has the doctrine of modern rome changed removing the State of Necessity? 7- Or is this a sham for pure political purposes? If so, the neo-SSPX just threw God under a bus! |
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