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Post by S.A.G. on Apr 26, 2018 20:16:27 GMT
Vatican rumblings: Pope Francis aiming to end Latin Mass permission ROME, July 26, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) – Sources inside the Vatican suggest that Pope Francis aims to end Pope Benedict XVI’s universal permission for priests to say the Traditional Latin Mass (TLM), also known as the Extraordinary Form of the Mass. While the course of action would be in tune with Pope Francis’ repeatedly expressed disdain for the TLM especially among young people, there has been no open discussion of it to date. Sources in Rome told LifeSite last week that liberal prelates inside the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith were overheard discussing a plan ascribed to the Pope to do away with Pope Benedict’s famous document that gave priests freedom to offer the ancient rite of the Mass. Catholic traditionalists have just celebrated the tenth anniversary of the document, Summorum Pontificum. Pope Benedict XVI issued it in 2007, giving all Latin Rite priests permission to offer the TLM without seeking permission of their bishops, undoing a restriction placed on priests after the Second Vatican Council. The motu proprio outraged liberal bishops as it stripped them of the power to forbid the TLM, as many did. Previously priests needed their bishop’s permission to offer the TLM. Additionally, Summorum Pontificum stated that wherever a group of the faithful request the TLM, the parish priests should willingly agree to their request. The overheard plans are nearly identical to comments from an important Italian liturgist in an interview published by France’s La Croix earlier this month. Andrea Grillo a lay professor at the Pontifical Athenaeum of St Anselmo in Rome, billed by La Croix as “close to the Pope,” is intimately familiar Summorum Pontificum. Grillo in fact published a book against Summorum Pontificum before the papal document was even released. Grillo told La Croix that Francis is considering abolishing Summorum Pontificum. According to Grillo, once the Vatican erects the Society of Saint Pius X as a Personal Prelature, the Roman Rite will be preserved only within this structure. "But [Francis] will not do this as long as Benedict XVI is alive.” The plan, as related to LifeSite, involved making an agreement with the Society of St. Pius X and, with that agreement in place, sequestering those Catholics wanting the TLM to the SSPX. For most, that would strip them of access to the TLM since there would not be nearly enough SSPX priests to service Catholics wanting the TLM worldwide. Moreover, LifeSite’s source suggested that the plan may explain a May 20, 2017 letter by the recently ousted Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, Cardinal Gerhard Müller. Even though Cardinal Müller wanted the SSPX fully reconciled to help fight modernists in the Church, the May 20 letter seemed to scuttle an agreement between Pope Francis and the SSPX which would see them get a personal prelature. The letter includes provisions long known to be completely unacceptable to the SSPX, thus nullifying an understanding SSPX leader Bishop Bernard Fellay believed was imminent. The LifeSite source suggested that the May 20 letter by Muller perhaps was written because he knows what Francis was up to and wanted to avoid the plan to bury Summorum Pontificum with Pope Benedict. “It’s directed not so much against Fellay but against the agreement,” said the source. “Pope Francis was very angry that document came out from Cardinal Muller and some say that’s why he made the decision to dismiss him.” source: link
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 3:27:58 GMT
He's on a roll. Two weeks ago, the Pope also shut down a novus ordo Traditional Order. Yet I have to repeat, this is not a surprise because this is EXACTLY what they said they were going to do! They created the Ecclesia Dei in 1988 purposely to shut down every and all competition to their new order religion. Its all laid out in that document. Hearing these things more frequently is because Bishop Fellay gave the modernists the last strong hold of organized tradition every other order needed and depended on to survive in any [temporary] measure. This included the FSSP. Now that Bishop Fellay caved in, the Vatican is reeling in other loose stragglers before they get out of control. The whole thing is a poncy scheme Archbishop Lefebvre knew...and warned about. But the proud do not listen. No doctrine in the forefront puts Christ back in the tomb. |
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Post by Deus Vult on Apr 27, 2018 16:21:17 GMT
While Pope Francis manifests a wickedness that is more visible than that of Pope Benedict, I would argue that Pope Benedict is far more wicked in reality than Pope Francis. He's the one that made Pope Francis, he is the one that rules behind the scenes. He is the one that is the cause of the greatest disturbance in the Church since he became a cardinal in 1981 he ruled the Church under Pope John Paul II and he has single-handedly worked to destroy Catholic tradition. In the early 80's by infiltrating the SSPX and getting priests and seminarians to leave that SSPX by forming the Institute of Christ the King and the Indult communities by mixing the truth with lies from the very beginning. The former Pope Benedict, Cardinal Ratzinger he is the one who's most responsible for this deception.
By giving us the wickedness of 2007 of the Sumorum Pontificum which will be known in history as one of the great wicked, evil, satanic documents presented in this time of crisis after Vat II, which stated that the new Mass is the ordinary form, and a blasphemy therefore before God to say such a thing. And that the old Mass is the extraordinary form of the same rite as the new mass. This is a blasphemy before God. This blasphemy led the greatest leader of Catholic tradition, Bp. Fellay, to say thank you Pope for this great blasphemy. He(B. Fellay) had a Te Deum sung. Many Catholics who were supporting Catholic tradition previous to that 2007 they sang the Te Deum in thanksgiving that we now have a blasphemous acceptance of the new mass as the ordinary rite and we have a blasphemous comparison of the new Mass and the old Mass as part of the same rite. [by this act] he corrupted Catholic tradition. He also blasphemed the truth when he got the 4 bishops of the SSPX to ask for their excommunications to be lifted, which excommunications didn't exist. And then he resigned and he got Francis to be made Pope in a deal that was made in the previous conclave. And Francis does according to the bidding of Benedict who's in the background like Annas who was the background behind Caiphas. But what Pope Francis is doing is he's making a public scandal of the papacy so that the world will no longer respect it and it will be destroyed of course it will never be fully destroyed. But Pope Francis is saying wicked things and adding wickedness to wickedness.
And it's interesting that the ones who are speaking out against it are the liberals. The ones speaking out against it are the conservatives, not the traditional Catholics. We find that Bp. Fellay says good things about Pope Francis and that the criticism of Pope Francis has been dropped to nil within the SSPX, making excuses for his wicked documents such as Amoris Laetitia. We see Amoris Laetitia for instance, we find N.O. priests and N.O. laymen who accept Vat II, who accept the teachings of the Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict as a good pope, these are the ones who said, Pope Francis you have listed 7 heresies. These are the 7 heresies you have enunciated and there are more heresies besides this, you are leading souls astray, leading souls away from God and you should repent your heresies, signed 50 laymen, theologians of various universities throughout the world and some priests- no bishops. Later on, when the document became popular Bp. Fellay added his name to it. This document was prepared by the conservatives, not by the SSPX.
The SSPX wrote a document concerning Amoris Laetitiain which it said this document is very concerning. This document is not heretical. This document could be easily misunderstood and it's confusing, justifying Amoris Laetitia. The conservative liberals, they said Amoris Laetitia is bad. The traditionalists (SSPX) said Amoris Laetitia is to be concerned with, it's not necessarily bad.
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When Pope Benedict XVI said wickedly, you Bishops of the SSPX ask for forgiveness, ask for the lifting of the excommunications. You sin against the faith when you ask for the lifting of the excommunications. You have no right to do that because those 6 Bishops were excommunicated falsely, which means they were not excommunicated. Why were they (falsely) excommunicated?
For preserving the Catholic priesthood, for preserving the Catholic Mass, for preserving the Holy Roman Catholic Church which cannot be preserved without the Catholic priesthood and the Catholic Mass. Do we beg forgiveness for that? It's a sin against the faith. The 4 Bishops begged forgiveness for it and sinned against the faith. They must repent for that. We do not bow down before the enemies of God. It is necessary to speak boldly against them. And even the lowest faithful can do it. Remember the boy in China who noted that the wardrobe of the emperor was a little bit sparse. He noted that the emperor's new clothes were not very many. He pointed out that the emperor's new clothes are - he's naked. When the boy pointed out in China that the emperor was naked, guess what? Everybody noticed the emperor was naked. It does not require the greatest of authorities. A little child can stand up against the Holy Father. A little child and a young man, and a priest of God, a simple priest and a simple bishop who has no jurisdiction must stand up against a wicked pope and say, you are teaching against Christ. This is our obligation right now. Because what is causing souls to go to hell? Heresy, error against the faith. That is what's causing souls to go to hell. How do we save them? We must root out the error and the heresy. Where must it be rooted out first? In the bishops, in the pope, in the priests. These are the ones who are supposed to be preaching the faith. Let us root it out from the priests, root it out from the bishops, root it out from the Pope. Since no authority can be had against the pope we can only say to him, 'Holy Father, do your duty. Holy Father stand up and preach the doctrine of St. Peter. Preach the doctrine of St. Pius X, preach the doctrine of St. Pius V. Preach the doctrine of the Church of the last 2000 yrs. The unchanging doctrine. Reject the false errors and heresies of Vat II. Reject the false errors and heresies of the modern world. Confirm the brethren in the faith. Be converted as Our Lord prayed in the Gospel of St. Luke Chp. 22- be converted and when you are converted, strengthen the brethren.'
This is the duty, we must speak out. Now is the time.
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Post by Admin on Apr 27, 2018 19:00:12 GMT
[...] By giving us the wickedness of 2007 of the Sumorum Pontificum w hich will be known in history as one of the great wicked, evil, satanic documents presented in this time of crisis after Vat II, which stated that the new Mass is the ordinary form, and a blasphemy therefore before God to say such a thing. And that the old Mass is the extraordinary form of the same rite as the new mass. This is a blasphemy before God. This blasphemy led the greatest leader of Catholic tradition, Bp. Fellay, to say thank you Pope for this great blasphemy. He (B. Fellay) had a Te Deum sung. Many Catholics who were supporting Catholic tradition previous to that 2007 they sang the Te Deum in thanksgiving that we now have a blasphemous acceptance of the new mass as the ordinary rite and we have a blasphemous comparison of the new Mass and the old Mass as part of the same rite. [By this act] he corrupted Catholic tradition. He also blasphemed the truth when he got the 4 bishops of the SSPX to ask for their excommunications to be lifted, which excommunications didn't exist. And then he resigned and he got Francis to be made Pope in a deal that was made in the previous conclave. And Francis does according to the bidding of Benedict who's in the background like Annas who was the background behind Caiphas. But what Pope Francis is doing is he's making a public scandal of the papacy so that the world will no longer respect it and it will be destroyed of course it will never be fully destroyed. But Pope Francis is saying wicked things and adding wickedness to wickedness. Cardinal Ratzinger, in nearly every role he has functioned in with the ecclesiastical ranks of the Church - whether it was as a peritus during Vatican II to Cardinal Frings, or coordinating and collaborating with the new theology theologians like Rahner and Kung and Schillebeeckx, to sitting on the Throne of Peter [giving us the Sumorum Pontificum and lifting the non-existent excommunications] - has inflicted damage on every vestige of Tradition. For the SSPX and its leadership to offer him to their faithful as a 'traditional' ecclesiastic shows how the shepards have themselves become the wolves. And this applies as well to Bishop Williamson. He too accepted the Sumorum Pontificum and the lifting of the excommunications. Bishop Fellay, as the head of the SSPX, and Bishop Williamson, as the head of the false resistance, are two sides of the same coin. Both are accepting of Vatican II errors. Thus both have compromised the Faith. These two bishops are no St. Athanasius'. He did not compromise one iota of the Faith. He preferred exile and also a false excommunication rather than compromise one jot or tittle of the True Faith. Plainly and clearly, this cannot be said of either of these prelates. If God has so ordained that for a space of time, there is not one faithful bishop [that we know of], let us beg of God His forgiveness for our transgressions, for as the saints have told us, 'You get the priests you deserve.' And if we do not, for a space of time, have a faithful bishop, we must remain faithful. Our faith does not depend on any one bishop or priest. We see this over and over in the martyrdom's of those saints who offered up their lives while watching other martyrs give up theirs. No priest or bishop was required for them to save their soul. Our obligation to obey even a bad hierarchy is a fallacy born out of the freemasonic lodges. From the Alta Vendita: What did Archbishop Lefebvre warn us of: How will we respond to Almighty God at our judgements when He asks us why we compromised the faith following errant bishops? Were we not blessed to know our catechism? Were we not blessed to know and memorize the First Commandment, 'I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt have no false gods before Me.' Were we not blessed [many of us] to have spent years in the old SSPX and have been taught Tradition? How can we reconcile the Commandments, our Catechism, and Tradition with the errors and heresies of Vatican II? How can we reconcile the Commandments, our Catechism, and Tradition with bishops and priests who promote the errors and heresies of Vatican II? It makes one tremble just to contemplate it. |
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