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Post by caleb on Aug 7, 2018 23:47:17 GMT
So, let me ask the question(s) directly;
Ecclesia militants did you call and speak to Bishop Ambrose Moran?
Maccabees did you call and speak with Bishop Ambrose Moran?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 1:54:47 GMT
So, let me ask the question(s) directly; Ecclesia militants did you call and speak to Bishop Ambrose Moran? Maccabees did you call and speak with Bishop Ambrose Moran? No.
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Post by ajnc on Aug 8, 2018 2:35:23 GMT
When this bishop first came on the scene at Our Lady of Mount Carmel a video of Fr Hewko interviewing him was released. Connections with Cardinal Josyf Slipyj were alleged. Some prudence should have been exercised.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 14:24:11 GMT
Machabees, you write that I knew Ambrose Moran was baptized Catholic as it was shown to me many times. Therefore, you conclude that I am being calumnious. Did you ever think that whatever evidence you presented at that time did not convince me? Nevertheless, you make such a big deal about Ambrose Moran being Catholic as if that swipes clean his controversial history. Go read my posts on my website and you will see whether or not Ambrose Moran was baptized Catholic is an essential point; it is not. For two and a half years, I have and continue to maintain these two essential propositions to my argument: 1. Ambrose Moran was not ordained a priest by Cardinal Slipyj. 2. Ambrose Moran was not consecrated a bishop by Cardinal Slipyj. If you can present new evidence that runs contrary to these two propositions, I am willing to take a look at it. Remember that it is Ambrose Moran that publicly stated the contradictions to these two propositions: 1. That he was ordained a priest by Cardinal Slipyj. 2. That he was consecrated a bishop by Cardinal Slipyj.
End runs, distractions, and constant re-narrations from the issues is your forté isn't it? Downplaying anothers Birthright as insignificant and meaningless in the way the Church teaches is disgusting! Being a Catholic in the House of God is everything. Failure to honor the Blood of Christ in a soul is calamitous to Himself and His Church. Whether you feign a new leaf from claiming Bishop Ambrose is only an orthodox (spun all throughout your website) and now forced to admit your knowledge Bishop Ambrose is a Catholic by threat of releasing ALL of your emails on this topic showing you are a fraud is only a political stunt for you, isn't it, like your fake public apology just to get sacraments for yourself. Your premise is only what is good for you and your brand; not for other souls you so easily trash. (sic)
Your refusal for honesty in a conversation parading as a shined "moral authority" when you act like a black crow is despicable. There are many other biased out there on Cathinfo land and now CorMariae land who also seek themselves you can find friends. I'm not interested.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 14:39:31 GMT
So, let me ask the question(s) directly; Ecclesia militants did you call and speak to Bishop Ambrose Moran? Maccabees did you call and speak with Bishop Ambrose Moran? No. I am not on a list of 'investigator'. It is the Fathers who have ALL of the information which EM wants to end run with his partial bias.
Which to your question, of course the answer for EM is no. Not surprising. Just the SAME with his active conspiracy with Fr. Ortiz the answer is NO! Yet they parade as the fact bearers and moral authorities committing grave acts of injustice in public against another soul = before God is slander and calamity!
EM's distraction from this shows the moral depravity on his side.
Here is a really good sermon on the "firefly" that helps explain false lights.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 14:52:52 GMT
It may sound silly, but can’t we just ask the Bishop, Priest, man to justify his claim since there’s conflicting paperwork circulating? It would seem, if he’s a man in good standing, he’d be happy to oblige, especially considering the times we live in. ? Yes, the Fathers have. I have come to understand the Fathers will be providing another video conference in a couple weeks on this topic along with an update on the negligent duty from these betrayal 'traditional' Bishops seeking the front and back door of modernism.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 22:11:32 GMT
It would appear that in the last hour or so, both on Cor Marie and Cathinfo that some of the more salacious implied wrong-doings by Fr. Poisson have been removed, in varying degrees.
But it is also clear that the person who started the attacks against Fr. Poisson on both sites still cannot contain her rage against the priests of OLMC, the true intended targets of her heinous comments. She has only modified her comments against the Fathers without learning her lesson to offer fact rather than her own spin. So be it. Those actions have their own reward, often times in this life but certainly in the next.
But let's be clear: editing published words - an impossibility before computers - does not qualify as a retraction. A retraction must attempt to undo the damage done. A few keyboard punches to a backspace button does not qualify as a retraction. Those damaging words must be apologized for. Anything less than that is pure cowardice, hiding behind a machine.
Wow! I don’t believe it! Can it be that Admin at Cor Mariae has fallen lower than Matthew at Cathinfo? At least (and I say “at least” because he should have deleted the thread) Matthew is admonishing Smedley Butler (MaryM at Cor Mariae) about her insinuations in a thread about Fr. Poisson and saying that it is sinful to blacken a priest’s name. But when MaryM/SmedlyButler started a thread with insinuations about Fr. Poisson at Cor Mariae, all Admin said was, “For the record nobody is accusing him of anything,” No corrections. No admonitions. Nothing. I guess Admin sees nothing wrong with it. From Cathinfo thread: Moderator Note: Fr. Poisson was not part of the Society of St. John, although the OP here insinuated exactly that. I have modified it to remove unjustified speculation and making connections that weren't there.
Scranton, PA is a decent-sized city of 76,000+ people. It's not a small village.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scranton,_Pennsylvania
No one is to be suspected of any wrongdoing merely by virtue of having an apostolate in Pennsylvania, or even Scranton, PA.
And this PA report story:
www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pa-supreme-court-orders-release-of-redacted-grand-jury-report-20208
Smedley, this is so far out there, it is literally off-topic. What does this have to do with Fr. Poisson? Oh, it is happening in Pennsylvania and Fr. Poisson worked in Pennsylvania for several years.
SO WHAT?
Not exactly a solid connection, to say the least!
Unless you have some evidence, you really need to stop insinuating things about Fr. Poisson. You have given no reason or evidence, much less proof, that Fr. Poisson is guilty of anything. Trying to blacken a priest's good name is actually sinful
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 23:30:31 GMT
Whether you feign a new leaf from claiming Bishop Ambrose is only an orthodox (spun all throughout your website)..... If by this statement you are referring to his baptism, please show me where throughout my website that I claimed that Ambrose Moran is only an orthodox? ....and now forced to admit your knowledge Bishop Ambrose is a Catholic by threat of releasing ALL of your emails on this topic showing you are a fraud is only a political stunt for you...... Forced to admit NOW by your threat of releasing ALL my emails? For your information, I admitted publicly in a June 22, 2017 post that I had accepted that he was baptized Catholic. ...isn't it, like your fake public apology..... Yes. My apology was fake for YOU because I didn't white wash Ambrose Moran like you wanted me to. .....just to get sacraments for yourself. Reading into my soul again Machabees? If I only apologized to get the sacraments for myself, then why did I break from the Kentucky Fathers last week knowing that the sacraments would be even harder to come by?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 2:14:33 GMT
EM, your intent with extremes "reading your soul" is not necessary. Your inconsistencies follow you and is evident throughout your archives. Betting on your public conspiracy with Fr. Ortiz and attack other priests is something you have to amend before God. Hoping others are not caught up to your circular arguments is not my concern nor interest.
I'll stick with the fathers and not your or anyone's partial bias.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 12:22:23 GMT
Your inconsistencies follow you and is evident throughout your archives. Please show me my inconsistencies throughout my archives.
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Post by Admin on Aug 9, 2018 18:09:41 GMT
It would appear that in the last hour or so, both on Cor Marie and Cathinfo that some of the more salacious implied wrong-doings by Fr. Poisson have been removed, in varying degrees.
But it is also clear that the person who started the attacks against Fr. Poisson on both sites still cannot contain her rage against the priests of OLMC, the true intended targets of her heinous comments. She has only modified her comments against the Fathers without learning her lesson to offer fact rather than her own spin. So be it. Those actions have their own reward, often times in this life but certainly in the next.
But let's be clear: editing published words - an impossibility before computers - does not qualify as a retraction. A retraction must attempt to undo the damage done. A few keyboard punches to a backspace button does not qualify as a retraction. Those damaging words must be apologized for. Anything less than that is pure cowardice, hiding behind a machine.
Wow! I don’t believe it! Can it be that Admin at Cor Mariae has fallen lower than Matthew at Cathinfo? At least (and I say “at least” because he should have deleted the thread) Matthew is admonishing Smedley Butler (MaryM at Cor Mariae) about her insinuations in a thread about Fr. Poisson and saying that it is sinful to blacken a priest’s name. But when MaryM/SmedlyButler started a thread with insinuations about Fr. Poisson at Cor Mariae, all Admin said was, “For the record nobody is accusing him of anything,” No corrections. No admonitions. Nothing. I guess Admin sees nothing wrong with it. From Cathinfo thread: Moderator Note: Fr. Poisson was not part of the Society of St. John, although the OP here insinuated exactly that. I have modified it to remove unjustified speculation and making connections that weren't there.
Scranton, PA is a decent-sized city of 76,000+ people. It's not a small village.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scranton,_Pennsylvania
No one is to be suspected of any wrongdoing merely by virtue of having an apostolate in Pennsylvania, or even Scranton, PA.
And this PA report story:
www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pa-supreme-court-orders-release-of-redacted-grand-jury-report-20208
Smedley, this is so far out there, it is literally off-topic. What does this have to do with Fr. Poisson? Oh, it is happening in Pennsylvania and Fr. Poisson worked in Pennsylvania for several years.
SO WHAT?
Not exactly a solid connection, to say the least!
Unless you have some evidence, you really need to stop insinuating things about Fr. Poisson. You have given no reason or evidence, much less proof, that Fr. Poisson is guilty of anything. Trying to blacken a priest's good name is actually sinful
It would seem that Pulcheria is correct, that Cor Mariae has indeed fallen lower than even Cathinfo in terms of what is allowed or implied on that forum.
Mary M posts the list of all the priests ever located (dead and alive) in the state of Pennsylvania who are either accused of abuse or under investigation for the same. If this post was, as one might argue, just for informational purposes, then why is Pennsylvania the only state listed? Is it perhaps because she has tried on three different forums to make the case that since Fr. Poisson was once stationed in that same state, he must by default be guilty of abuse as well? This is a serious offense against someone's good name. Even Cathinfo, who is well known to despise the true resistance and do all they can to discredit it, warned her against such allegations. To be allowed on Cor Mariae free reign to imply and insinuate that someone is guilty of such a heinous crime, with zero substance, is reprehensible.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 20:23:39 GMT
Wow! I don’t believe it! Can it be that Admin at Cor Mariae has fallen lower than Matthew at Cathinfo? At least (and I say “at least” because he should have deleted the thread) Matthew is admonishing Smedley Butler (MaryM at Cor Mariae) about her insinuations in a thread about Fr. Poisson and saying that it is sinful to blacken a priest’s name. But when MaryM/SmedlyButler started a thread with insinuations about Fr. Poisson at Cor Mariae, all Admin said was, “For the record nobody is accusing him of anything,” No corrections. No admonitions. Nothing. I guess Admin sees nothing wrong with it. From Cathinfo thread: Moderator Note: Fr. Poisson was not part of the Society of St. John, although the OP here insinuated exactly that. I have modified it to remove unjustified speculation and making connections that weren't there.
Scranton, PA is a decent-sized city of 76,000+ people. It's not a small village.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scranton,_Pennsylvania
No one is to be suspected of any wrongdoing merely by virtue of having an apostolate in Pennsylvania, or even Scranton, PA.
And this PA report story:
www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pa-supreme-court-orders-release-of-redacted-grand-jury-report-20208
Smedley, this is so far out there, it is literally off-topic. What does this have to do with Fr. Poisson? Oh, it is happening in Pennsylvania and Fr. Poisson worked in Pennsylvania for several years.
SO WHAT?
Not exactly a solid connection, to say the least!
Unless you have some evidence, you really need to stop insinuating things about Fr. Poisson. You have given no reason or evidence, much less proof, that Fr. Poisson is guilty of anything. Trying to blacken a priest's good name is actually sinful
It would seem that Pulcheria is correct, that Cor Mariae has indeed fallen lower than even Cathinfo in terms of what is allowed or implied on that forum.
Mary M posts the list of all the priests ever located (dead and alive) in the state of Pennsylvania who are either accused of abuse or under investigation for the same. If this post was, as one might argue, just for informational purposes, then why is Pennsylvania the only state listed? Is it perhaps because she has tried on three different forums to make the case that since Fr. Poisson was once stationed in that same state, he must by default be guilty of abuse as well? This is a serious offense against someone's good name. Even Cathinfo, who is well known to despise the true resistance and do all they can to discredit it, warned her against such allegations. To be allowed on Cor Mariae free reign to imply and insinuate that someone is guilty of such a heinous crime, with zero substance, is reprehensible.
The other thread with insinuations about Fr. Poisson is about his history cor-mariae.com/index.php?threads/fr-poisson-history-and-deceit-on-the-catacombs.7751/ For no reason, MaryM gives links to lists of accused priests and court cases about clergy abuse in Philadelphia in this thread about Fr. Poisson, saying that Fr. Poisson held positions in the Scranton and Harrisburgdioceses. Notice that “ruthy” posted that she didn’t see Fr. Poisson’s name in the list, to which Admin just says, “True. For the record nobody is accusing him of anything.” It's shameful.
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Post by Serviam on Aug 14, 2018 19:43:03 GMT
Well, the Pennsylvania Attorney General today released his long-awaited report on sexual abuse by priests in that state. The CathInfo Calumniators will likely be disappointed due to the fact that neither Fr. Marshall Roberts nor Fr. Joseph Poisson was listed as one of the "offenders".
There must be a special place in hell for those who calumniate priests. Let us pray for those who participated--actively or passively-- in calumnies against Fr. Roberts and Fr. Poisson.
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Post by amicus on Aug 14, 2018 20:20:35 GMT
I didn't need a list to confirm they were not with the list of offenders, I just had to meet and talk to them,to know their innocence, which is what should have been done before anyone made accusations. May God forgive all who contributed in any way to promote this false information. Next time, don't assume everyone from PA. is an offender, some of us are good!
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