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Against the works of Maria Valtorta Dec 31, 2018 11:27:59 GMT

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Doctrinal Review by the Dominicans of Avrille:

What should we make of the book The Poem of the Man God by Maria Valtorta?

To answer to questions which were asked of us about Maria Valtorta, we publish here a text coming from Le Sel de la terre n° 7

(doctrinal review of the Dominicans of Avrillé).

For more details, you can consult the book of Fr Herrbach: “Des visions sur l’Évangile” on the website: www.clovis-diffusion.com/

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Maria Valtorta died in 1961 “in an incomprehensible physical isolation” (in an insane asylum).

Her principal work The Poem of the Man God, which was written in the years from 1943 to 1947, took up 10,000 pages of note-books.

Her confessor Father Migliorini, claims to have been received in audience with Pope Pius XII alongside Father Berti, in February 1948 and the Pope is supposed to have said to them to publish this work, adding "Whoever reads it, will understand". This oral authorisation of the Pope seems very unlikely: The Pope could only have given the authorisation of the work if he had read it and been assured of its orthodoxy; but how would the Pope have found the time to read these 10,000 pages? This authorisation appears even less credible when the Holy Office forbade the work definitively (with no possible correction) one year later in February 1949. The first four volumes were however published without Imprimatur from 1956 to 1959. On the 16th of December 1959, the edited books were put on The Index [Editor: The Index of Forbidden Books]. The Osservatore Romano (official newspaper of the Vatican) published the placement on The Index accompanied with an article justifying the condemnation. Here are some extracts:

“The four Gospels present us with a Jesus humble and full of reserve; His speaking is sober, incisive but supremely efficacious. On the contrary in this sort of romantic History [Editor: i.e. The Poem of the Man God], Jesus is excessively loquacious and resembles a man of propaganda, always ready to proclaim Himself the Messiah and Son of God, and to give out lessons of theology, using the same terms that a professor of theology would use today.

In the Gospel narratives, we admire the humility and the silence of the Mother of Jesus. On the contrary for the author of this work, the most blessed Virgin Mary with the talkativeness of a modern lawyer, is always present everywhere and always ready to give lessons of Marian theology, perfectly up to date with the latest current studies of specialists on the matter…

Some scenes are rather indecent and make us think of scenes from a modern novel. We will only give a few examples, such as the confession made to Mary by a certain Aglae, a woman of ill-repute (1st volume, p.790 and after¹); the not very edifying narrative from pages 887 and onwards in the first volume; a ballet executed in an immodest fashion before Pilate at the pretorium (volume 4, p. 75) etc…

To finish let us point out another strange and imprecise affirmation where it is said of the Madonna, “You, all the time that you will be on this earth, you will be the second after Peter, in the ecclesiastical hierarchy. [It is we who underline, says the review]”

Here are some examples of the errors and improprieties of this book:

Our Lord thinks that words tire now and we must have recourse to visions… of Maria Valtorta;
The tree of life in the terrestrial paradise is only a symbol;
The sin of Adam and Eve consisted in the use of marriage in a spirit of lust;
Saint Anne gave birth without pain;
Our Lady brags of her humility and her calm;
She says that she redeemed women through her maternity;
She said that she saw God at her creation;
Satan became flesh in the form of Judas.

One can note numerous contradictions with the Gospel, for example:

Our Lord is supposed to have sucked with avidity the vinegar given by the soldier;
On the Cross Our Lord did not cease to cry out “Mommy!” and she replied: “Yes, my treasure, I am here”;
Our Lady gets angry, cries out and becomes “almost” delirious after the death of her Son;
and this is not to mention the numerous sensualities which are spread throughout the work.

Let us finish by citing a talk by Archbishop Lefebvre at a retreat, where he expresses his reserve regarding Maria Valtorta:

“It is better for us […] not to spend too much time on the material details of the life of Our Lord. […] These books which present themselves as revelations of the Life of Our Lord, in my opinion, can be a danger, precisely because they represent Our Lord in a too concrete manner, too much in the details of His life. I am thinking of course of Maria Valtorta. And perhaps for some this reading can do good, it can bring them close to Our Lord, to try to imagine what would have been the life of the Apostles with Our Lord, the life at Nazareth, the life of Our Lord as the visits of the cities of Israel.

But there is a danger, a great danger; that is to humanize too much, to concretize too much, and to not sufficiently show the face of God, in this Life of Our Lord. This is the danger. I do not know if we should recommend so much to people the reading of these books, if they are not forewarned. I do not know if that would raise them up and make them know Our Lord, such as He was, such as He is, such as we should know Him and believe Him to be.²

Last advice : Rather than read these novels where errors abound, it would be better to read Holy Scripture with good commentary based on the Fathers of the Church³, or even good lives of the saints⁴.

(From Le Sel de la terre, n° 7)

1. These references correspond to the edition published at that time in Italian.
2. Retreat preached in September 1986, fourth instruction. Father Emily cites, at the end of his work, a part of this testimony, as well as an extract of a letter of Archbishop Lefebvre which goes along the same lines.
3. For example, The Great life of Jesus Christ, by Ludolphe le Chartreux or the commentaries of Bossuet.
4. The lives of the Saints, except in the case of a bad biography, make us remain in the real rather than depart into the imaginary, as is the case of these “visions” . The lives of Saints have what is needed to nourish the imagination, the heart and the intelligence of all Christians, even the most simple. Even today, one can find good illustrated lives of the saints.

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"So let us be confident, let us not be unprepared, let us not be outflanked, let us be wise, vigilant, fighting against those who are trying to tear the faith out of our souls and morality out of our hearts, so that we may remain Catholics, remain united to the Blessed Virgin Mary, remain united to the Roman Catholic Church, remain faithful children of the Church."- Archbp. Lefebvre 1980

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Against the works of Maria Valtorta Dec 31, 2018 11:44:53 GMT

Post by Admin on Dec 31, 2018 11:44:53 GMT

A book review adapted from a sedevacantist website:

The Poem of The Man God Exposed

Maria Valtorta’s multi-volume life of Jesus The Poem of the Man God teaches heresy and exhibits bad taste. Its claim to authenticity have been rejected even by the Vatican II sect under [Pope] John XXIII. In 1959, the “Holy Office” examined The Poem of the Man God and condemned it, recommending that it be placed on the “Index of Forbidden Books”. “L’Osservatore Romano” (the Vatican’s official newspaper), on Jan. 6, 1960, printed the condemnation with an accompanying front-page article, “A Badly Fictionalized Life of Jesus,” to explain it. “Catholics” were warned that it was not to be considered as revealed by God.

Further, Valtorta did not claim to write a novel, but called herself a “secretary” of Jesus and Mary, so, in all parts one reads the words “Jesus says. . .” or “Mary says . . .” The Church takes this claim to revelation very seriously, since it has the God-given duty to discern what is or is not truly from the Holy Spirit. In Valtorta’s case, even the “Holy Office” under the liberal [Pope] John XXIII, decided against Divine inspiration. The best that can be said for “The Poem of the Man-God” is that it is a bad novel inspired by the devil. This was summed up in the “L’Osservatore Romano’s” headline, which called the book “A Badly Fictionalized Life of Jesus.” In short, her writings are false and should be avoided.

The satanic “Jesus” of Maria Valtorta suggests a love-affair between St. Peter and Our Lady

One could almost not think that the Devil and his servant (Maria Valtorta) would dare to present Jesus in such an evil light, but the “Jesus” of Maria Valtorta is a liar and slanderer, pure and simple. Jesus even jokes with impropriety with his apostles. Here, Jesus stands up and calls out loudly and angrily to Peter:

“‘Come here, you usurper and corrupter!’
“‘Me? Why? What have I done, Lord?’
“‘You have corrupted My Mother. That is why you wanted to be alone. What shall I do with you?’
“Jesus smiles and Peter recovers his confidence. ‘You really frightened me! Now You are laughing.” (Vol. II, n. 199, p. 185)

To the contrary, this is what Jesus said in the Bible: “But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.” (Matthew 5:37) To claim that Jesus, the Son of God, and God Himself, would act in this way, is abominable.

An Adult with homosexual tendencies

Valtorta’s Jesus suspiciously displays homosexual tendencies since he is constantly kissing and embracing the Apostles. When Jesus tells James of His approaching Passion, James reacts with great emotion. Jesus comforts him thus:

“‘Come, I will kiss you thus, to help you forget the burden of My fate as Man. Here, I kiss your lips that will have to repeat My words to the people of Israel and your heart that will have to love as I told you, and there, on your temple, where life will cease.’ … They remain embraced for a long time and James seems to doze off in the joy of God’s kisses that make him forget his suffering.”

When Valtorta describes the “favorite” Apostle John as having the face of a young girl with the “gaze of a lover,” we can hardly avoid having the impression that they have a homosexual relationship. Here Jesus is kissing John to awaken him:

“Jesus bends and kisses the cheek of John, who opens his eyes and is dumbfounded at seeing Jesus. He sits up and says, ‘Do you need me? Here I am.’ …

“John, half naked in his under-tunic, because he used his tunic and mantle as bed covers, clasps Jesus’ neck and lays his head between Jesus’ shoulder and cheek.”

After John professes his belief and love in Jesus as Son of God, “he smiles and weeps, panting, inflamed by his love, relaxing on Jesus’ chest, as if he were exhausted by his ardor. And Jesus caresses him, burning with love Himself.”

John begs Jesus not to tell the others of what has passed between them. Jesus replies, “Do not worry, John. No one will be aware of your wedding with the Love. Get dressed, come. We must leave.” (Vol. 2, n. 165, pp. 57-58)

More on The Poem of the Man God by Maria Valtorta

Maria Valtorta is author of The Poem of the Man God and other nauseating books. The Poem is contained in several thick volumes. The Poem was condemned several times by the pre-Vatican II church. Its printing was forbidden… Yet “Our Lady” of Medjugorje recommended the Poem as “a good read.”

I don’t think her work is something people should waste their time with. There were a lot of red flags that came up when I was looking for information about it. For example: it was on the “Index of Forbidden books”, it was supported by Paul VI and it is in direct opposition to the Holy Scripture. Her work also contains a lot of geographical, theological and historical blunders. For example it said in Vol 1 pp 195, 223 Jesus was using screwdrivers and screws didn’t exist until centuries later. So unless Jesus invented it centuries earlier for Himself, this is clearly a blunder. Maria Valtora also claimed that the first sin was sexual and scripture does not teach that. That can be found in Vol 1 pg 30. In Vol 1 pg 7 it claims that “Mary can be called the ‘second born’ of the Father” and Vol 4 pg 240 claims that she is second to Peter with regard to the ecclesiastical hierarchy.

One thing that I found interesting about Maria Valtora was that her spiritual advisor claimed that she had written the text without correction, revision or review and often without even understanding what she had written. I find this interesting because it sounds like automatic writing which is a form of spirit communication very popular with people involved with the occult. The definition of automatic writing is: Writing performed without conscious thought or deliberation, typically by means of spontaneous free association or as a medium for spirits or psychic forces.

I visited the site www.valtorta.org in order to get a glimpse of this “poem”. I was shocked with what I found.

On extraterrestrial life:

“But how is it that they have never considered that the ‘great Babylon’ is the whole Earth? I would be a very small and limited God the Creator if I had created only the Earth as an inhabited world! With a beat of My will I have brought forth worlds upon worlds from nothing and cast them as luminous fine dust into the immensity of the firmament.

“The Earth, about which you are so proud and fierce, is nothing but one of the bits of fine dust rotating in unboundedness, and not the biggest one. It is certainly the most corrupt one, though. Lives upon lives are teeming in the millions of worlds which are the joy of your gaze on peaceful nights, and the perfection of God will appear to you when, with the intellectual sight of your spirits rejoined to God, you are able to see the wonders of those worlds."

Well, I could expect these passages to come out of a Star Trek fan’s mouth, not from a mouth of God’s prophet. By the way—the perfection of God is obvious from EVERYTHING we can see in creation.

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A Book Review of Valtorta’s Poem of the Man-God

A friend recently sent me an e-mail asking about Maria Valtorta and her Poem of the Man-God. She received a recent issue of Kyrie Eleison comments of Bishop Richard Williamson of the Society of the SSPX titled “Home Reading” (October 20, 2012). In it, he recommends parents read selected chapters of the Poem of the Man-God to children every night.

He admits the Poem is controversial and has many enemies, but he defends Valtorta’s massive tome (4,000 pages in 10 volumes of supposed visions she received of the life of Christ). The “Bishop” supports it, despite the objections he lists: that it is riddled with doctrinal errors, that it humanizes Our Lord Jesus Christ, and that the work was placed on the “Index of Forbidden Books” in the 1950s under the Vatican II sect.

He lightly dismisses all the arguments against it and concludes children will learn much about Our Lord and Our Lady from the Poem, which “will fortify a home.”

“I have not read this book,” my friend continues, “but, for Heaven’s sake, why didn’t Bishop W. recommend reading the wonderful, approved, 4-volume City of God by Venerable Mother Mary of Agreda or The Revelations of St. Bridget by St. Bridget of Sweden? But that is beside the point. I really do wish to know if you approve of the Poem of the Man-God. Even the title upsets my Catholic sensibilities.”

A humanized Christ

I believe my friend should follow her good Catholic sense. The very title, “the Man-God”, expresses the spirit of the work. It is Jesus as a man that Valtorta presents: a babe suckling greedily at his Mother’s breasts, a youth hardly aware of Who He is, a Man who laughs and jokes with His Apostles and is constantly kissing them on the mouth and embracing them closely. Yes, at the least, it is difficult not to suspect this showy Jesus pictured in such way as having homosexual tendencies.

Valtorta’s natural approach is supposed to attract the modern man to the Life of Christ. It is in tune with the condemned progressivist or modernist doctrine that tries to deny the supernatural and instead presents Our Lady as a simple Jewish woman and focuses on Our Lord as being a man “like us.” The progressivists aims to de-mythify and de-supernaturalize Christ and His Mother under the guise of presenting a natural “historical” Christ and Mary.” I believe Valtorta’s Jesus and Mary fit this mold.

Valtorta’s Man-God depiction is the opposite of the God-Man portrayed by St. Bridget of Sweden, Anne Catherine Emmerich and Ven. Mary of Agreda, whose life of Christ is presented from an elevated, supernatural vantage point. One cannot help but wonder why the supposedly “traditionalist” Bishop Williamson would not recommend these works, instead of the Valtorta tomes, which were officially condemned by the “Holy Office” under]Pope] John XXIII and placed on the “Index” in December 1959 and defined by “L’Osservatore Romano” of January 6,1960 as “a badly fictionalized life of Jesus,” and for good reasons. The Poem of the Man-God is riddled with banalities, vulgarities, blasphemies and even doctrinal errors. There are endless idle conversations between Our Lord, Our Lady and the Apostles, all on a natural level. I think the best way to confirm these points is simply to cite some texts (in addition to the above), which are so revolting that they speak for themselves.

Like Luther, Mary thinks: Let us sin to be forgiven

Some passages are tantamount to heresy. For example, Valtorta presents the child Mary as expressing her desire to be a sinner in order to merit the grace of Redemption:

“[Mary]: ‘Tell Me, mummy, can one be a sinner out of love of God?
“[Anne]: ‘What are you saying, my dear? I don’t understand you.’
“[Mary]: ‘I mean: to commit a sin in order to be loved by God, Who becomes the Savior. Who is lost, is saved. Isn’t that so? I would like to be saved by the Savior to receive His loving look.” (Vol. 1, n. 7, p. 23).

This is blatantly heretical. Mary did not need “to commit a sin in order to be loved by God… to be saved by the Savior to receive His loving look” since it is of faith that God has always loved Mary, who was free from all sin, both actual and original, from her conception until her death, more than any other creature, even before she was created by Him. And Mary also said about God her savior in God’s Holy Word, the Bible, that she already had a Savior, Jesus Christ: “And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.” (Luke 1:47). Hence, she did not need to desire to receive this, for she already had it.

Gods Holy Word also says concerning the statement “to be a sinner in order to be loved by God and to be saved”: “For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie, unto his glory, why am I also yet judged as a sinner? And not rather (as we are slandered, and as some affirm that we say) let us do evil, that there may come good? whose damnation is just.” (Romans 3:7-8)

St. Augustine explains: “Let us do evil that good may come? A thing which you see how the Apostle detests.” (To Consentius, Against Lying)

Is is of faith that Mary was infinitely more holy and enlightened by the will of God than any other creature (even more so than all the creatures combined) that has ever lived on this earth. Therefore, there is no possible way she could ever have been ignorant of the fact that “evil should not be done that good may come of it...” or that she ever would have asked or even considered to “be a sinner out of love of God”. So this is just pure evil and satanic since sin offends God and is directly contrary to the love of God. Hence that Mary could not have loved God more or been loved more by God than when she was living her angelic, sin-free life.

A sensual Eve tending toward bestiality

The work is also not without doctrinal errors, such as when Valtorta asserts the sin of Eve was not disobedience, but a sexual act. There is also an insinuation of a tendency toward bestiality in Eve. This erotic description was supposedly made by Jesus:

“With his venomous tongue Satan [the Serpent] blandished and caressed Eve’s limbs and eyes… Her flesh was aroused… The sensation is a sweet one for her. And ‘she understood.’ Now Malice was inside her and was gnawing at her intestines. She saw with new eyes and heard with new ears the habits and voices of beasts. And she craved for them with insane greed. “She began the sin by herself. She accomplished it with her companion.” (Vol. 1, n. 17, p. 49)

Conclusion

These are some excerpts I offer to my readers to evaluate Valtorta’s work. I believe they are sufficient for the reader to make a judgment of the whole. It is thus understandable that the “Holy Office” under [Pope] John XXIII placed the work on the “Index of Forbidden Books.” Indeed, the Poem of the Man-God is so demonic that without a special grace from Our Lord Jesus Christ, ignorant people could easily be deceived by the seemingly harmless statements by Valtorta’s Jesus, but they enclose lies and heresy, contrary to the teachings of the One, Holy Catholic Church.

In short—Maria Valtorta is the Devil’s servant, promoting a false gospel and Jesus.

Furthermore, here’s more proof that Medjugorje is totally fake: the “visionaries” reported that people were encouraged to read Poem of the Man God in one of their “apparitions.”

In an interview with Attorney Jan Connell of the Pittsburgh Center for Peace on January 27, 1988, Connell asked the Medjugorje “visionary” Vicka Ivankovich (who have been proven to be inspired by the devil by teaching heresies) if there were any other books “Our Lady” had told her about. Vicka replied:

“Yes. The Poem of the Man-God by Maria Valtorta, ten volumes. Our Lady says The Poem of the Man-God is the truth. Our Lady said if a person wants to know Jesus he should read Poem of the Man-God by Maria Valtorta. That book is the truth.”

During a broadcast interview on Mother Angelica’s EWTN cable network, which aired an interview with Medjugorje seer Marija Pavlovic, Bob, a call in viewer from Milwaukee asked Marija, on the air, “What exactly did our Lady say regarding the Poem of the Man-God?” Marija responded that our Lady told her, “You can read it”.

As Marija Pavlovic recalled in an interview conducted by Sister Emmanuel Maillard, in 1982 a Franciscan from Mostar, Father Franjo, asked her to ask Our Lady if this book is true. Marija then describes how she received a positive affirmation from the Madonna: “Our Lady says The Poem of the Man-God is the truth.” [cf. R. Laurentin, Dernieres Nouvelles de Medjugorje No 15, OEIL, 1996, p. 19]

All in all, those passages shown in this article contain obvious heresies against the faith and are so revolting that they speak for themselves. They are definitive proof that her messages are not from God.

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Against the works of Maria Valtorta Mar 6, 2020 13:03:20 GMT

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The Angelus - June 1986

Ask Me...

answers given by Father Carl Pulvermacher

Q. Are the Charismatics a modern-day manifestation of what the Apostles experienced when the Holy Ghost came upon them and they began to speak in tongues? Anon., Houston, TX

A. No. I've never seen solid evidence of any lasting good coming from such as Cursillo or Charismatic prayer groups. I tend to suspect the intentions of people who act as though the Holy Ghost has finally appeared in the Church. Surely they lie. Already before Vatican II there appeared on earth a kind of spiritual sickness called illuminism.

"Apparitionitis" is what one traditional theologian has called it. Miracles, healings, speaking in tongues are now frequent and people of weak faith came running from all directions. I believe the devil does these things to distract the faithful from seeing the reality of the darkness and miseries in our modern day Church. Medjugorje is another case to prove this point. The Charismatics promote this "false" apparition and this "vision" encourages the Charismatics. The Cursillo, the Charismatic renewal, the Renew—so much now promoted is not Catholic, not the true work of the Holy Ghost. Many innocent souls are being misled by these things. The Holy Ghost works marvels of grace in His true followers. But He works through Faith. Running after weeping statues of Christ or His Mother is a fun thing. Oh, I do not deny that God can work such wonders. But His normal way is through Faith. Only Faith, Hope and Charity will count at the Judgment Day — not speaking in tongues or weeping statues.

[Emphasis mine.]

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Against the works of Maria Valtorta Mar 6, 2020 13:20:52 GMT

Post by Admin on Mar 6, 2020 13:20:52 GMT

Further links between Medjugorje [See "Medjugorje Exposed" here] and Valtora's The Poem of the Man-God:

In an interview with Attorney Jan Connell of the Pittsburgh Center for Peace on January 27, 1988, Connell asked the visionary Vicka Ivankovich if there were any other books Our Lady had told her about. Vicka replied:
"Yes. The Poem of the Man-God by Maria Valtorta, ten volumes. Our Lady says The Poem of the Man-God is the truth. Our Lady said if a person wants to know Jesus he should read Poem of the Man-God by Maria Valtorta. That book is the truth."

The following Mp3 file is an audio excerpt from a broadcast transmitted December 1988 on Radio Maria. Vicka Ivankovic accounts the Madonna's response to a question concerning the validity of Maria Valtorta's ten volume Gospel Narrative "The Poem of the Man-God":
"They are true. Yes, yes, true. Authentic, yes. You can read these, they are true."
Vicka_Ivankovic_1988-12-27_Radio_Maria.Mp3

During a broadcast interview on Mother Angelica's EWTN cable network, which aired an interview with Medjugorje seer Marija Pavlovic conducted by retired New Orleans Archbishop Philip Hannan. On March 4, 1992 on the Archbishop's Focus program, Bob, a call in viewer from Milwaukee asked Marija, on the air, "
What exactly did our Lady say regarding the Poem of the Man-God?" Marija responded that our Lady told her, "You can read it" (1, 2).

As Marija Pavlovic recalled in an interview conducted by Sister Emmanuel Maillard, in 1982 a Franciscan from Mostar, Father Franjo, asked her to ask Our Lady if this book is true. Marija then describes how she received a positive affirmation from the Madonna: "Our Lady says The Poem of the Man-God is the truth." [cf. R. Laurentin, Dernieres Nouvelles de Medjugorje No 15, OEIL, 1996, p. 19]

Issue 34 (July-December 1986) of the "Bollettino Valtortiano" (Valtortian Bulletin), edited by the "Centro Editoriale Valtortiano", published the testimony of Giovanna Guggeri, music schoolteacher, endorsed by the signature of her brother, the lawer Ferdinando Guggeri, from Seregno (Milan). They attest what happened on August 15, 1985 at Bijakovici: "I showed Marija the score with canticles of the "Poem of the Man-God", in a booklet that I had brought from Italy in order to play the three canticles on the organ of the parish church. The visionary, hearing of Maria Valtorta and of the "Poem of the Man-God", from lighthearted became serious and said: "Maria Valtorta! Tutto vero Poema Uomo Dio. Madonna ditto due anni or sono: tutto vero! Dettato da Gesu!" [Maria Valtorta! All true. The Poem of the Man-God. The Madonna said two years ago: all true! Dictated by Jesus!] (These are the words spoken in Italian by the visionary)." ["Bollettino Valtortiano", No 34 (July-December 1986), p. 135]

In an interview with Elliot Miller and Kenneth Samples (who turned out to be critical of Medjugorje), Vicka Ivankovic confirmed Our Ladies endorsement of Maria Valtorta’s writings. The testimony can be found in their resulting book, "The Cult of the Virgin", Baker Book House, Grand Rapids, MI , 1992, p. 150.

The following is an excerpt from an email with permission to post:

In reference to Medjugorje, I was standing outside Vicka's house and she was asked the same question by three groups of pilgrims. I heard Vicka say:
“Our Lady says The Poem of the Man-God is the truth. Our Lady said if a person wants to know Jesus, he should read the Poem of the Man-God by Maria Valtorta. That book is the truth.”
Three times! The first time was to an Italian group, and a woman in our group translated. I stayed there to confirm this. Vicka was asked the same question in English, and gave the same answer. Another American group appeared, so I stayed and heard Vicka give the same reply for the third time. This was during the week of the Assumption, 1981. I remember it as if were yesterday!

Taken from a : Maria Valtorta-supporting website

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Also: on the shop.medjugorje.com website, they are selling the ten volume set of The Poem of the Man-God with the following introduction:

The voluminous work by Maria Valtorta on the life of Our Lady and Jesus. Medjugorje visionary Marija was asked about the Poem of the Man-God by a group of seminarians in 1982-1983. Marija went before Our Lady and relayed that Our Lady affirmed it was okay by answering:

"One must read them."

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Against the works of Maria Valtorta Mar 6, 2020 13:32:22 GMT

Post by Admin on Mar 6, 2020 13:32:22 GMT

An excerpt that highlights yet another error found in The Poem of the Man-God:

"The Poem" [...] extols the virtue of the Pharisee Hillel, outrageously putting Jesus on his knees venerating Hillel's grave, among many other absurdities.

Quote "Jesus" as depicted in The Poem of the Man God:

"I love and venerate Hillel, I respect and honour Gamaliel. They are two men through whose justice and wisdom the origin of man is revealed"

Who in their right mind cannot see the pharisaic/rabbinic hand behind this outrageous Pharisee-veneration put in the mouth of Christ?

There is no justice in the Pharisee Hillel. A book that claims that Jesus venerated the Pharisee Hillel who overruled God's law on divorce and allowed divorce for any reason; who nullified God's 7 year release of debts and created loopholes for incest by defining it as "not sex" is absolutely, 100% certainly not from God.

"The Poem" was shepherded past Cardinal Ottaviani and the Holy Office by Cardinal Bea of unhappy memory whose treachery reached its zenith with the shepherding of Nostra Aetate through Vatican II. [...]

To understand why it's impossible that Jesus would venerate the creature Hillel for "justice and wisdom" we look at Mark 10;2-10 and Matthew 19;3-9 in which the Pharisees attempt to ensnare Jesus on the topic of divorce.

Judaic and Christian scholarship of any given era largely takes for granted that Jesus is being confronted with the pharisaic positions of Hillel and Shammai in this passage. The Gospel passage makes it clear that Jesus condemns both the positions of Hillel and Shammai, corrects the injustices of both positions and teaches what God intends on the indissolubility of marriage.

The 1917 Catholic Encyclopedia identifies Hillel and his "lax" teaching on divorce with the Gospel narrative of the Pharisaic attempted ensnarement of Jesus on that topic:

In the time of Christ there was an acute controversy between the recent, lax school of Hillel and the strict, conservative school of Schammai about the meaning of the Hebrew phrase ["for some uncleanness"]. Hence the question with which the Pharisees tempted Our Lord: "Is it lawful [for a man to put away his wife] for every cause?" The putting-away of the wife for frivolous reasons had been sharply condemned by God through the Prophets Micheas (ii, 9) and Malachias (ii, 14), but in later days it became very prevalent. (Catholic Encyclopedia, "Divorce")
www.newadvent.org/cathen/05054c.htm

[Emphasis mine.]