OLMC et al.: Fr. Hewko, Fr. Poisson, Bp. Timlin and the Pope

Father [Pfeiffer]: that’s what one of the parishioners asked a few weeks ago, a month ago. You know, and so: you need to be conditionally ordained. He said: well I’m not going to be conditionally ordained.

And even though we say that we know that most likely the new ordination rite is valid, it’s reasonable to doubt it. It’s not unreasonable to doubt it. Because the whole new Mass is a mess, the whole new Church is a mess – it’s not unreasonable to question it. If a guy who’s professional, is a professional maker of poisoned fruits gives you fruit, it’s reasonable to ask: is this one of the poisoned ones? It’s a reasonable question. What? Yes.


Congregant: Conditional baptisms, even. You know, I mean--


Father: Well, I mean baptisms of course – in the case of baptism, you know: I baptize you. There’s no issue, but--


Congregant: But we still do conditional, or re-baptize you when someone’s joining the Church--


Father: oh yeah, that’s true when they come from other religions, and even religions where the Church considered them valid in the past. And the reason is because they don’t – because when the Catholic Church collapsed, the Baptists collapsed, the Anglicans collapsed, everybody collapsed.

So, you can’t trust an Anglican to have even done an Anglican baptism. Before Vatican II they wouldn’t have baptized an Anglican, they would’ve only done the profession of faith. But now we’ve got somebody who’s baptized after the ‘60s or ‘70s Anglican, we conditionally baptize them, because the Anglicans don’t follow the Anglican rules, just like the Catholics don’t follow the Catholic rules.

And so therefore because of the change, in the past the Catholic Church would never have baptized an Anglican – only profession of faith and, you know, profession of faith and lose the excommunication, and confession--