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This is Canon Hesse’s best overall exposé and refutation of Vatican II (recorded in 1997).
In the Fr. Hesse MP3 collection, this talk is titled “The New Conciliar Religion” (Parts 1 & 2).
See the comments section for the MP3's and timestamps of dozens of notable parts and statements from his talk.
Below is merely a small sample:
3:05 – “[Vatican II] is also exceptional in another regard: it is the first council ever to pronounce heresy. Vatican II as a whole is unacceptable to a Catholic, and after the talk you will see why. Time does not permit to go through all the details of Vatican II so I will point out the most important errors and heresies.”
5:42 – “Vatican II is ambiguous from the first to the last line! Vatican II is contradictory from the first to the last line!”
7:42 – “Now Vatican II should be the first book on the Index [of Forbidden Books] as far as this century is concerned.”
14:11 – “You cannot DENY that Lumen Gentium 8 makes it optional to believe that if the Catholic Church is the only true Church or there can be other churches that have a chance to get you saved. No wonder no Protestants are converting anymore!”
20:20 – “The concept that the Muslims and the Jews pray to the same God we do […] this concept is heresy, it IMPLIES a lot of other heresies, and it is blasphemy. And anybody that tells me that we can interpret this in a Catholic way is to say the least a little bit nuts.”
21:57 – “There's other things in Lumen Gentium that cry out to Heaven for being blasphemous, stupid, and heretical, but we have to go on.”
24:41 – “He's still the pope. He's a bad pope. He's a heretical pope. An ignorant Pope. And a Pope who lies. But that doesn't make him cease to be pope just like […] President Clinton is the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces in this country even though he's a draft dodger.”
32:17 – “[…] Sounds familiar to the one who has read about the Masons. Sounds familiar to the one who has read about blasphemies uttered at the United Nations, doesn’t it?”
33:41 – “Gaudiem et Spes also postulates, as I said before, ‘a peaceful government of the whole world under one body of government.’ This is to say the least naive in 1965 when most of the governments in this world were already anticlerical and against the Church. It is to say the least naive. I do not believe for a moment that it is naive. I believe it's diabolical.”
34:41 – On freedom vs. liberty. “So as long as the statue of liberty is not the statue of freedom I'm not interested in the old broad in the New York harbor.”
35:32 – “And the liberty of religion is something in Vatican II that caused many bishops to stop signing documents!”
36:09 – “Liberty of religion has been condemned by the Popes Gregory XVI, Pius IX, Leo XIII, Pius X, Pius XI, Pius XII. You are NOT free to choose your religion! You are BOUND in conscience to choose the Catholic Church and to belong to the Catholic Church. And if you don't, as the Church says it, objectively speaking you cannot be saved.”
36:44 – “So anybody who thinks that he is free to choose their religion might go to hell for it. [...] If I had the freedom of religion, I'd be an Episcopalian for many years already, but I do not have it! I am bound in conscience to adore God in the way that God WANTS me to adore Him! And that means I have to be a Catholic even if it costs me my life! There is no such thing as liberty of religion! Forget it! Forget Vatican II! Let's print a bumper sticker: Forget Vatican II!”
42:27 – “Until this Pope taught me to forget my old Faith, I had always believed that […].”
43:00 – “So what we have here altogether is not only a new church, it is a gnostic sect. […] We’re living in a gnostic sect founded by Vatican II which our dear beloved present pope calls ‘the Second Pentecost.’ And I cannot say Amen to that.”
45:25 – Fr. Hesse answers what you should do if you can't get to a traditional Mass.
47:56 – Fr. Hesse answers the question, “Tell us about the Masons which you think have infiltrated the Vatican.” He discusses Masons and about how a 1974 NATO report estimated 3,000 KGB agents in the Catholic Hierarchy.
49:20 – Lady: “Are [KGB agents] in the Vatican?” Fr. Hesse: “Of course there are KGB agents in the Vatican! You think the KGB is stupid!? The KGB is not the CIA, ‘Christians in Action.’ That's a field term for them. And the infiltration must be deep down.”
53:27 – “The point is you cannot fulfill your Sunday obligation at the New Mass, you must not attend the New Mass, and you must not collaborate with them. Would you work for the local Episcopalian church? Why not? They're much better than what you're working for.” (The Novus Ordo)
1:00:40 – The question of the validity of the New Mass is a secondary point since it’s illicit to begin with.
1:06:33 – “It took 2,000 years to build the Church to the point where it was and it took 30 years for them to almost tear it down. But rest assured: we will survive thanks to the Society of St. Pius X.”