What is the Object of the Faith?
Mar 14, 2018 19:40:44 GMT
Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 19:40:44 GMT
Q. What is the Object of the Faith?
Below is a very good apologetic explaining the object of the Catholic Faith is God and His Divine Revelation.
Starting from an erroneous comment from a sedevacantist thinker, saying:
The Catholic response follow:
St. Thomas says:
Below is a very good apologetic explaining the object of the Catholic Faith is God and His Divine Revelation.
Starting from an erroneous comment from a sedevacantist thinker, saying:
DOGMA + MAGISTERIUM = object of supernatural faith
The Catholic response follow:
The equal sign (=) in mathematics is used to indicate a quantitative identity. What you have posted is not an identity and further muddies the issue. When we had this exchange before on the rule of faith, you erroneously claimed that the Magisterium stood outside of divine revelation so that it could act as judge of divine revelation. The Magisterium is not outside of, but is an integral part of divine revelation. If anything, the term "living magisterium" functions as if it were an independent arbiter of divine revelation.
The objects of supernatural faith are, without exception, divine revelation. Supernatural faith is believing what God has revealed on the authority of God. Divine revelation is the one and only rule of faith.
God's revelation is contained in Scripture and Tradition. This revelation is called the "formal object of divine faith" and constitutes the remote rule of faith.
Dogma is the Church formally defining an object of divine faith. This act of defining is possible because God has endowed His Church with powers that permit her to fulfill her obligations. Her obligations are three: to teach, to sanctify and to govern. The powers to fulfill these obligations are the "attributes" of the Church. They are attributes of God primarily and necessarily, and they are only attributes of the Church because the Church is a divine institution. These attributes (powers) are: Infallibility, Indefectibility, and Authority and these powers directly correspond with the obligations to teach, to sanctify and to govern that God has delegated to His Church.
The power of infallibility belongs to the Church and we know this through and only through divine revelation. Designated Churchmen can engage this power to teach in the name of God without the possibility of error, "He who heareth you, heareth Me." This teaching office is called the Magisterium and specific criteria necessary for Churchmen to engage this divine power has been dogmatically defined. It is one, and unfailingly teaches without the possibility of error because it is God who is the teacher.
The Magisterium is part of divine revelation. When the Magisterium is engaged, Churchmen can in the name of God define a doctrine of divine revelation in a formal sense. This defined doctrine is then called a Dogma and it is then referred to as the "formal object of divine and Catholic faith" and, as part of divine revelation, it constitutes the proximate rule of faith.
The Magisterium is one of our Dogmas. In this sense it is "object of supernatural faith" like all divine revelation.
If it were expressed in a mathematical formula, it would be more accurate to say:
Objects of Supernatural Faith = All Divine Revelation
All Divine Revelation = Scripture + Tradition + Dogmas
Objects of Supernatural Faith = Scripture + Tradition + Dogmas
The Magisterium is part of divine revelation that is, a defined doctrine, and thus, a Dogma and is grounded upon the Church's attribute of Infallibility.
Those who do not follow Dogma as their proximate rule of faith cannot avoid such errors as sedeprivationism that drives a wedge between the form and the matter of the papal office thus necessarily causing a substantial change that destroys the office, or sedevacantism that simply throws it away.
Drew
www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/is-father-ringrose-dumping-the-r-r-crowd/195/
The objects of supernatural faith are, without exception, divine revelation. Supernatural faith is believing what God has revealed on the authority of God. Divine revelation is the one and only rule of faith.
God's revelation is contained in Scripture and Tradition. This revelation is called the "formal object of divine faith" and constitutes the remote rule of faith.
Dogma is the Church formally defining an object of divine faith. This act of defining is possible because God has endowed His Church with powers that permit her to fulfill her obligations. Her obligations are three: to teach, to sanctify and to govern. The powers to fulfill these obligations are the "attributes" of the Church. They are attributes of God primarily and necessarily, and they are only attributes of the Church because the Church is a divine institution. These attributes (powers) are: Infallibility, Indefectibility, and Authority and these powers directly correspond with the obligations to teach, to sanctify and to govern that God has delegated to His Church.
The power of infallibility belongs to the Church and we know this through and only through divine revelation. Designated Churchmen can engage this power to teach in the name of God without the possibility of error, "He who heareth you, heareth Me." This teaching office is called the Magisterium and specific criteria necessary for Churchmen to engage this divine power has been dogmatically defined. It is one, and unfailingly teaches without the possibility of error because it is God who is the teacher.
The Magisterium is part of divine revelation. When the Magisterium is engaged, Churchmen can in the name of God define a doctrine of divine revelation in a formal sense. This defined doctrine is then called a Dogma and it is then referred to as the "formal object of divine and Catholic faith" and, as part of divine revelation, it constitutes the proximate rule of faith.
The Magisterium is one of our Dogmas. In this sense it is "object of supernatural faith" like all divine revelation.
If it were expressed in a mathematical formula, it would be more accurate to say:
Objects of Supernatural Faith = All Divine Revelation
All Divine Revelation = Scripture + Tradition + Dogmas
Objects of Supernatural Faith = Scripture + Tradition + Dogmas
The Magisterium is part of divine revelation that is, a defined doctrine, and thus, a Dogma and is grounded upon the Church's attribute of Infallibility.
Those who do not follow Dogma as their proximate rule of faith cannot avoid such errors as sedeprivationism that drives a wedge between the form and the matter of the papal office thus necessarily causing a substantial change that destroys the office, or sedevacantism that simply throws it away.
Drew
www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/is-father-ringrose-dumping-the-r-r-crowd/195/
St. Thomas says:
Quote,
The formal object of faith is the First Truth as manifested in Holy Scripture and in the Church’s teaching. Hence if anyone does not adhere as to an infallible and Divine rule to the Church’s teaching, which proceeds from the Church’s truth manifested in Holy Scripture, such an one has not the habit of faith, but holds the truths of faith not by faith but by some other principle" (II-II, Q. v, a. 3).
The formal object of faith is the First Truth as manifested in Holy Scripture and in the Church’s teaching. Hence if anyone does not adhere as to an infallible and Divine rule to the Church’s teaching, which proceeds from the Church’s truth manifested in Holy Scripture, such an one has not the habit of faith, but holds the truths of faith not by faith but by some other principle" (II-II, Q. v, a. 3).