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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 14:54:31 GMT
Thanks for putting up this american forum. I'm in the u.s. and have been trying to follow the Fr. Roberts situation. I read the seminary letters and see the cathinfo crowd all over the board accusing with speculation than anything. Typical for blindly following bp. Williamson who is openly against bp. Lefebvre.
Looks more of a campaign to sabotage reputations and promote a crime by association.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 16:34:10 GMT
Welcome to The Catacombs Tobias. Your right, it is a lot of hot air. Seems those folks in the fake need their fix every once and a while to keep their inordinate flames of trad-ecumenism alive. Something of which we refuse and state it so; which bothers their conscience knowing they cannot be a catholic-pluralist before the one God. Their obvious lack of charity and cat scratching only feeds to mock God further. One cannot live on grace by mocking God. Only on a football fan's energy to see another player get hit. Those people love to hide the facts when it suits them and change the narration with a host of made-up distractions...still a nothing-burger. If the Fake resistance layfolks would respect their own four bishops and priests, more so, the four bishops and priests would lead with integrity than ambiguous chatter, their supports would not be so entangle hitting a stick against God's Hand who feeds them. Here are the Facts: - ALL four of the Fake Resistance bishops did/and still support Fr. Marshal Roberts while at the Florida mission.
- Three of the bishops gave confirmations and conferences for Fr. Roberts at the Florida mission (Bps. Williamson, Faure, and Aquinas).
- Fr. Zendejas had also visited Fr. Roberts accompanying the latter two bishops.
- Fr. Chazal wrote a 2014 letter in support of Fr. Marshal Roberts within the resistance.
As the Recusant had said: I do not recall the tiniest hint of outrage on the part of Fr. Chazal, Cathinfo or any of the Fake Resistance crowd about it then. So why now?
Regarding that last point, I must say candidly that it looks as if the usual axiom is at work: “Anyone coming to the aid of Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko must die.”Which comes to the bigger point, the four fake bishops made threats to their priests and supporters, anyone who associates with OLMC will be " CRUSHED" and refused the sacraments. Bishop Aquinas said quite adamantly to Fr. Cardozo, quote: “People who disagree with or criticize Bishop Williamson should not be made welcome. Priests who disagree with or criticize Bishop Williamson should not be received and the faithful should not go to their Mass. Criticizing Bishop Williamson has consequences.” (Letter of Dom Tomas Aquinas to Fr. Cardozo) Some "traditional" catholic bishops they are...and their supports are doing the same. So the fear mongering of the fake is just that, always hyped, conflated, and inordinate. To whom do they serve? To what faith do they promote? Quite distinctly, the NOM and its satanic miracles...fed to us in Bishop Williamson's Eleison comment epistles! See here Where is the False Resistance now |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 18:13:08 GMT
So the four bishops are in on the cover up to.
That quote from bp. Aquinas is very disturbing. And for bp. Zendejas to say they will crush other catholics is so wrong to say. This is like something out of the novus ordo world.
Were the priests in kentucky proven to have any doctrinal issues for these bishops to say such a thing? Or would i suspect from everything else this is a cover up too?
I try to listen to their sermons and not heard anything but following the stand of bp. Lefebvre.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 18:39:59 GMT
So the four bishops are in on the cover up to. That quote from bp. Aquinas is very disturbing. And for bp. Zendejas to say they will crush other catholics is so wrong to say. This is like something out of the novus ordo world. Were the priests in kentucky proven to have any doctrinal issues for these bishops to say such a thing? Or would i suspect from everything else this is a cover up too? I try to listen to their sermons and not heard anything but following the stand of bp. Lefebvre. No, there are no doctrinal issues. Which makes the bigger-bigger point. It is all four of the fake resistance bishops that have the doctrinal errors and we are trying to help them to point this out. Instead, they only attack us with conflated personal attacks creating a frenzy for their trad-ecumenical followers who are all to happy to jump in on their sins against God. That is what the people did to protect their golden calf...they eventually "blamed" Moses for calling them out and attacked him with all kinds of personal flamboyancies. "...and the people murmured against him."Fr. Ortiz also stated there are NO doctrinal issues with the OLMC Seminary priests. And he admits it is all about "an attitude of distrust and defiance towards our Bishops and priests." Sound familiar? There it is from the fake. We must serve mammon than God. They want us to go back to the novus ordo land. In BW's epistles, he tells us we can go to the least contaminated masses...and attend the conservative parts of the NOM where one can find grace and salvation. (sic) Here are Quotes of Bp. Williamson supporting the new religion and conciliarism |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 19:38:34 GMT
In reviewing all the issues surrounding Fr Roberts, it appears he is only attacked after he came to Kentucky. Before that he was visited by many priests and bishops. Makes one wonder if all the flare up now isn’t just another attack against the Kentucky priests rather than Fr Roberts. Seems like he is old news, so to speak. But any opportunity to launch another attack against Frs Pfeiffer and Hewko must not be unexplored.
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Post by Deus Vult on Dec 28, 2017 19:41:25 GMT
Peace to men of good will.
"This Child rules the universe. This Child is the greatest King of kings and Lord of lords and God of all Creation and only men of good will can see it. Those who have not good will they shall be blinded. Those that are filled with pride they shall be blinded. Those that are not desirest of receiving the Divine Truth, who have cut their hearts off from it, the Lord God knows who they are, they shall be blinded. But those of good will, those that are simple, those that are watching in the night, those that are sorrowing in the night, these shall receive the great blessing of God and they shall have peace. This peace is most powerful."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 23:36:57 GMT
Thanks for putting up this american forum. I'm in the u.s. and have been trying to follow the Fr. Roberts situation. I read the seminary letters and see the cathinfo crowd all over the board accusing with speculation than anything. Typical for blindly following bp. Williamson who is openly against bp. Lefebvre. Looks more of a campaign to sabotage reputations and promote a crime by association. Tobias, I couldn’t agree more. I was banned yesterday from Cathinfo for these two posts I made about this Fr. Roberts situation. And since then others have told me (since I can no longer view the website since being banned) that one of my posts was deleted. But seeing over and over how the false resistance handles any opposition, I took screenshots of my posts. At Cathinfo, there will be no deviation from the party line of full and total support for all things Bishop Williamson and company. |
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Post by immaculata on Dec 29, 2017 17:51:10 GMT
Thank you for starting up this forum and may God bless all the members and the good work and intentions of this forum.......
With that said, I appreciate those who have spoken up and defended Fr Roberts..... it is a sad day when traditional Catholics are cold and uncharitable.... I just ask these people and those on cath info and the like....... Exactly what proofs do they have to accuse this priest?...... whatever happened to ....innocent until proven guilty?...... everything now is guilty, even if proven innocent!....... to treat a good priest like this it's deplorable....... the so-called traditional Catholics are an embarrassment....... how can we be shining lights in the Darkness without charity?.... I wonder if any of the Bishops are telling any of their flock that this is not right... shame on them if they have not!....... some of these Catholics May be well-intentioned, but they need to understand that they are as sheep being led to the slaughter....... they do need to understand that if none of the Bishops and fellow priests have ever had a problem with father, then why now...... only because he is associated with Our Lady of Mount Carmel!.... are they thinking about the seriousness about how they are hurting and humiliating a priest without there ever having any proof! This is like spitting on our dear Lord himself!..... so unless anyone has any solid proof..... then they need to just be quiet!!!.. and they need to apologize and make reparation for the serious offense against this priest!
And perhaps when they're done that, it might serve them well to look inward and try to understand the motive behind what they do....... my God have mercy on us all!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 18:29:38 GMT
More information is coming. Organized. Objective. And concise.
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Post by Admin on Jan 4, 2018 23:51:41 GMT
Reprinted with permission from an email sent by Andre de Meules
Dated January 2, 2018 -
Subject line titled: Character Assassination - Full Speed Ahead (Adapted by redacting names of persons included in original email)
Dear Soldiers of the Christ,
Several of you from the West Coast to the East Coast and places in between have asked me what happened at and about Boston, Kentucky. Why did the (names redacted) stop having Frs. Pfeiffer and Hewko saying Mass in their home and why have they left the Twin Cities OLGS Resistance Mass Group? Where will they be going for Mass? And what is my take on all of this?
I cannot answer for what is in their hearts and minds!! I will pass on what they told me. I think to do this I’d better start at the very beginning!! I will name names for those people who have come out publicly on all of these issues. (For the sake of privacy - those names are redacted on this forum.) ...
My questions are: Is there some “VENDETTA” going on here?? Against the REAL Resistance?? Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer?? Against any Catholic priest in general?? My main question is why the followers of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre have gone in so many different directions since his death??
SSPX/Rome Agreement July 2012
Information on the “web” came out fast and furious and a good friend passed everything on to LaVonne and I and continued to do so for several years. I started to pass this information out to all my friends at IHM (SSPX) Chapel here in St. Paul, Minnesota. Then…came the “barking dog” sermon of Father Joseph Pfeiffer in the Philippines. I told my friend to contact that priest and ask him to come to Minnesota. Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Chazal came and we (several people I had invited) had a meeting with both of the priests and then Fr. Chazal said Mass for us (November 3, 2012). They both went on to St. Mary’s and Post Falls and that was the beginning of the “Real Resistance”. I then put on a luncheon meeting at a local restaurant and 53 people came including some from Long Prairie, Minnesota.
Fr. Pfeiffer Problems Start
Some time later Fr. Pfeiffer told me that from the Philippines he and Fr. Chazal went straight to Bishop Williamson to discuss their next move. Bishop Williamson told them not to leave the SSPX or to start a Resistance and also stop speaking about the 2012 Agreement!! In other words: “sit down and shut up”! Father Pfeiffer told him (the Bishop) he could not do these things in “Good Conscience”. That is when Bishop Williamson put out publicly a barrage of verbal attacks and told SSPX priests “NOT” to join Fr. Pfeiffer in his endeavors! (This is when Sean Johnson started to attack Fr. Pfeiffer on the web.) Bishop Williamson later refused to confirm or ordinate for the “Real” Resistance Group. Still later, as you know, none of this stopped Fr. Pfeiffer so the Bishop started his own “shadow” resistance group. Fr. Pfeiffer and 10 (ten) other priests started the SSPX-MC which includes: Fr. Jean Michel Morel (our past pastor here in St. Paul) and Fr. Marshall Roberts.
John Pfeiffer, a lawyer from Chicago made accusations about Fr. Roberts and his short time when he (Fr. Roberts) was in the seminary of the Society of St. John’s. This accusation was based on a book about the fall of the Society. The charges faded fast!
Note: More on the recent charges by John Pfeiffer which he resurrected after Fr. Roberts came to Boston, Kentucky at the request of Fr. Pfeiffer. Fr. Roberts has spent 11 (eleven) years at a Resistance Mass Group in Florida and the faithful decided that they wanted to rejoin the SPPX.
More Fr. Pfeiffer Problems
Pablo the Mexican has been a major help and is mostly responsible for the physical running of the Our Lady of Mount Carmel Seminary in Boston, Kentucky since its inception!! This man has a very gruff and…a very difficult disposition to get along with or deal with. No one is willing to take his place. However, several people like him and got along with him very well. But others insist that Fr. Pfeiffer “fire him”. Even Fr. Edward MacDonald thinks he should. Fr. MacDonald told me that he thought Fr. Pfeiffer was a very poor judge of character. Many have left the “Real” Resistance over this issue. Two people from our group here in Minnesota left our group over this issue. Also, the Chicago group except for one. My take: volunteer to do Pablo’s job or shut up.
Still More Problems
Because Bishop Williamson has kept his promise not to serve the people of the “Real” Resistance, Fr. Pfeiffer has been looking for a bishop replacement and found one to “interview”. Then, everyone and I mean (almost) everyone piled on the attacks. They faulted him for even talking to an Eastern Rite bishop. How could he even consider allowing this Bishop Ambrose to say a Mass (Latin) on the Altar of Boston, Kentucky? How dare he!!! Again Fr. MacDonald got into the fold and again told me that Fr. Pfeiffer is a poor judge of character simply talking to Bishop Ambrose. The worst thing for me was when Fr. Chazal (open letter on the web) chastised Fr. Pfeiffer for the “interviewing” of this Eastern Bishop. Countless numbers attacked Fr. Pfeiffer. It was maddening for me to witness their diatribe!! How uncatholic!!
Fr. Pfeiffer asked me if he should respond to “all” these people. I told him “NO”. Then I explained further with my own experience and told him “Father, if one or two credible people criticize something you have said or done, look very close at what you did. But if lots and lots of people openly criticize you then you know you are right!”
When Bishop Ambrose heard all this nonsense, he simply ran away. My take: the only mistake here is that “The Mexican” publicized it on the “web” and let it out that Fr. Pfeiffer was “interviewing” Bishop Ambrose. This let people think that they had something to say about it and the right to do so!! This time “..redacted..” joined in this attack as well as the “The Mexican” issue.
Again Even More Problems
When Fr. Pfeifer preached against the heresies of Bishop Williamson (the new mass, novus ordo miracles, letting Fr. Abramson say public Masses even after the SSPX restricted him from doing so, etc.) the attacks again were put out on the “web” openly and loudly for all the see and comment that Fr. Pfeiffer was personally attacking Bishop Williamson’s character. This time Dom (Bishop) Tomas Aquino, Fr. (Bishop) Zendejas, Fr. (Bishop) Faure, Fr. Chazal, Fr. MacDonald, Sean Johnson, “..redacted..” and so many others too numerous to enter here all added this issue to their many other attacks.
All Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko were doing was keeping their flocks informed and taught them the true Catholic Faith and the true Catholic teachings of heresy. One thing for sure, Fr. Pfeiffer will not allow anyone to “mess around” with Catholic Doctrine. My take: LaVonne and I both think and believe that Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko and the other “Real” Resistance priests are the “only” ones in continuing the teachings strictly of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.
The Latest Attacks
Now we can discuss the latest calamity!! John Pfeiffer, a Chicago lawyer, using his business logo for a personal attack against a Catholic priest accusing Fr. Roberts of being a homosexual and using mostly “hearsay” evidence and “association” evidence. The Buschmann’s have completely joined this lawyer and others of the Chicago Resistance Group.
Their claim is based on a book written by a Randy Engels. It tells that story of the fall of the Society of St. John’s. The 2 (two) principal priests of this Society admit to homosexual acts. Marshall Roberts was a seminarian there for a short time. His name was not mentioned in the book. [ED. The allegation is in her book without investigative discernment of facts and content.] He, however, is accused by “association” by Mr. John Pfeiffer and company.
Fr. Pfeiffer has presented 2 (two) documents clearing Fr. Roberts. 1.) He was cleared by an investigation by the SSPX. Mr. John Pfeiffer and company ignore this one. 2.) He also was cleared by the Bishop of the Diocese of Scranton, Pennsylvania with a government (“Caesar’s”) court document. This is also ignored by them, saying that it just a million dollar out of court settlement. No proof was given.
Their claim was that Fr. Roberts is guilty based upon a letter written by him to another seminarian while at the seminary of the Institute of Christ the King. No specific words were found to implicate him. It is said by Fr. Patrick Perez that while he was a seminarian at the Institute of Christ the King he read the letter and said No words were used to imply any wrong doing however, the letter “could be” “might be” interpreted (based on his “opinion”) that there “could be” “might be” something there. This is of course their (Mr. John Pfeiffer and company) evidence of their conviction!!
My take: Any good lawyer (Chicago or not) would know that any hearsay or interpretations (opinions) would be thrown out of court in a heartbeat!
My Conclusion
Who in the hell appointed these people judge and jury behind our backs??
Why do Catholics including those so called “Traditionalists” since Vatican II “character assassinate” so freely?? Especially of those given the holy marks of the priesthood based upon what the Great High Priest (the Christ) gave the Apostles and thus the Church in making priests by the Will of Almighty God Himself? All Catholics are told over and over again that it is a grave sin – even a sacrilege but they ignore this and continue to ruin lives not only of the clergy but of the people in the pew (causing scandal).
If you ruin someone’s character, how do you make “restitution”?? How do you go public and make restitution?? People will always believe the first false rumor. Nothing can be said to fix it.
Our Lord made it very clear that He will do the judging. Read the words carefully of the Our Father.
Good luck to all of us in saving your souls!
My regards and may Our Lady of Good Success give us many graces!!
André & LaVonne de Meules
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Post by Admin on Jan 5, 2018 0:01:42 GMT
Reprinted with Permission of the Author
Email Dated January 3, 2018
Subject Line: A Warning, Out of Charity
I am sad to inform you that our good Fathers Pfeiffer and Hewko have been vehemently attacked by one of our own , a Mr. John Pfeiffer , who runs the Catholic Candle newsletter and website. I received an email from him just before Christmas that was appalling. I am not including it in this email. He sent it out to others as well. Some Resistance faithful received phone calls from his wife. As you will see by reading below this poor John Pfeiffer is spreading disgusting lies and slander and is behaving in a disgraceful manner, to say the least, towards Father Marshall Roberts. Both Frs. Pfeiffer and Hewko have put out public letters stating this John Pfeiffer has lied. We've attached these , please see the link to Cor Marie.
We're praying John Pfeiffer comes to his senses and makes a public apology and a good confession. I felt it important to share this with you in hopes that souls will not be harmed by his lies and his audacity to tell the faithful what to do . God has allowed us to see the evil that lurks in John Pfeiffer's heart. We not only have lost respect for him , now view his Catholic Candle as untrustworthy reading, we also are guessing his tactic was possibly to divide and destroy. Please know that in his first email to me he was telling me to encourage Fr. Hewko to leave Fr. Pfeiffer as he stated he had done and told Fr. Hewko that he will take care of him and then a week later he notes on his Catholic Candle website under list of clergy not to have anything to do with Fr. Hewko. We've included a link to that as well. It looks as though since he could not control Fr. Hewko he chose to attack him. I am sorry to be the bearer of ill news but I feel this man has gone too far and it is best to be warned with the entire story in order to reduce any damage to souls. Sadly ,this crisis continues to bring out the worst in some people.
Just to note, my response to John Pfeiffer's email is below. I'd also like to note that I believe it is no odd coincidence that after Fr. Marshall's FL parish decided to join the SSPX ( after being told it was the only option from the fake resistance bishops ), some of his parishioners were suddenly concerned about their priest that had served them well for 10 years.
God bless,
Tim Cline
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Post by Admin on Jan 6, 2018 21:55:14 GMT
We have received word that an attorney is being retained by Pablo the Mexican (Paul Hernandez), as promised, to bring a case against Attorney John Pfeiffer. Pablo had previously notified Mr. Pfeiffer in writing, that if he (John Pfeiffer) did not provide some kind of proof of his claims against Fr. Roberts in a certain period of days, then he would have to retract his slanderous statements against Fr. Roberts or be sued. Mr. Pfeiffer appears to have done neither. Hence, legal action is being taken, as promised.
We have also received word that Pablo is retaining an attorney in defense of the allegations against Fr. Roberts at his own personal expense.
Please keep Pablo in your prayers. He too has been slandered many times over the last few years, everything from calling him a non-Catholic, to saying hurtful things about his dying son, etc. Yet this is the same man willing to help defend the defenseless. May God reward him abundantly for his generosity of heart.
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Post by lateran on Jan 8, 2018 6:35:09 GMT
The following is a quote obtainable from many sources:
"The Freemasonic secret-society network is intrinsically interwoven into all levels of society's structure - banking, business, police, military, politics, legal system, education, mass media, religion, medical and pharmaceutical industry, illegal drug running and distribution, organized crime and last but not least, the major 'think tanks' and manipulators of the masses - the intelligence agencies"
Now either every American Catholic even Chicago lawyers would be subject to excommunication given that we all have some degree of association. Such as any degree of association especially as weak as being in the area. Fortunately, that is not the case and for anyone to even make an allegation much less a judgement on such a basis is not something we would expect from a sane and reasonable person, most especially from someone claiming to be a Catholic.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 17:11:59 GMT
Its easy to see which priests and bishops are living the Faith and which are not.
The fake resistance has millions in property value but Bishop Williamson tells Fr. Roberts to go work in McDonalds.
Fr. Hewko speaks of this about the 24 min mark:
Its easy to see who has charity and who does not.
God bless those good priests who have fed the hungry.
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